Equipotential surface and electric field

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between electric fields and equipotential surfaces, specifically how to derive potential expressions from given electric field components. The participants confirm that the electric field can be expressed as the negative gradient of the potential, represented mathematically as E_x = -∂V/∂x. They emphasize the importance of distinguishing between the equation of a surface and the expression for potential, concluding that further analysis of the other components is necessary to fully determine the potential function.

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I know the relation between electric field and electric potential . I can also find Electric field if expression for potential is given and vica versa . But I do not know how to work with electric field and equipotential surfaces . Since this is an MCQ , I believe there must be some simple underlying concept involved in it .

Is there a way to get the expression for potential from the equipotential surface or vica versa ?
 

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Jahnavi said:
I know the relation between electric field and electric potential .
If you know the relation, then use the given field components to find an expression for the potential. Sometimes even MCQs require you to do work. You could try dimensional analysis, but you must be sure you know what you're doing because of (d) being a possibility.
 
kuruman said:
If you know the relation, then use the given field components to find an expression for the potential.

Sorry . I am not sure how to do this . Although if expression for potential is given then using partial differentiation electric field can be obtained .

Ex= -∂V/∂x

But electric field is given in the problem .
 
Jahnavi said:
But electric field is given in the problem .
I agree. You are looking for the potential, not the electric field. If $$\frac{\partial V(x,y,z)}{\partial x}=-4axy\sqrt{z}$$ what could ##V(x,y,z)## possibly be in the most general case?
 
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kuruman said:
If $$\frac{\partial V(x,y,z)}{\partial x}=-4axy\sqrt{z}$$ what could ##V(x,y,z)## possibly be in the most general case?

-2ax2y√z

I think this will also be the expression if I do the same thing in Y and Z direction .

Are the options given in the question expression for potentials ? If yes , then option C) looks correct . Is that right ?

But the question asks to find equipotential surfaces . "Equation of a surface" and "expression for potential" are two different things . Isn't it ?
 
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You are not done yet. The potential could be ##V(x,y,z)=-2ax^2y\sqrt{z}+f(y,z)## and the x-component of the electric field would still be ##E_x=4axy\sqrt{z}##. If this is the case, then the correct answer could be (d). So you need to do more work with the other two components that are given to you.
Jahnavi said:
"Equation of a surface" and "expression for potential" are two different things . Isn't it ?
Yes. If you have an expression for ##V(x,y,z)##, you can solve the equation ##V(x,y,z) = constant## for ##z## and compare your answer with the three possible answers.
 
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kuruman said:
You are not done yet. The potential could be ##V(x,y,z)=-2ax^2y\sqrt{z}+f(y,z)## and the x-component of the electric field would still be ##E_x=4axy\sqrt{z}##. If this is the case, then the correct answer could be (d).

You are right :smile:

kuruman said:
So you need to do more work with the other two components that are given to you.

What should I do now ?
 
Jahnavi said:
What should I do now ?
The same thing you did in the x-direction, but now do it in the y-direction. You know that $$\frac{\partial V(x,y,z)}{\partial y}=-2ax^2\sqrt{z}$$ and you have found that ##V(x,y,z)=-2ax^2y\sqrt{z}+f(y,z)##. Put it together and see what you can say about the y-dependence of ##f(y,z)##. Then repeat with the z-dependence.
 
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