Estimate the lifetime of the excited state that produced this line.

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The discussion revolves around estimating the lifetime of an excited state based on an atomic spectrum line with a specified wavelength and spread. The subject area involves concepts from atomic physics and spectroscopy.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the lifetime using changes in wavelength and frequency but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach. Some participants question the validity of the equations used and suggest alternative methods for determining the relationship between wavelength and frequency.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made by the original poster. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There is a noted concern about the applicability of the equations used by the original poster, indicating potential misunderstandings of the concepts involved. The original poster also expresses confusion about their calculations, which may affect the direction of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



An atomic spectrum contains a line with a wavelength centered at 460 nm. Careful measurements show the line is really spread out between 459 and 461 nm.

Estimate the lifetime of the excited state that produced this line.

Homework Equations



Change in Frequency = Speed of light/Change in Wavelength

Time = The inverse of frequency

The Attempt at a Solution



Change in wavelength = 461nm -459 nm = 2 nm or 2x10^-9 meters

Change in frequency = speed of light/change in wavelength = (3x10^8)/(2x10^-9) = 1.5x10^17 in units of s^-1

Life time = 1/(1.5x10^17) = 6.7*10^-18 seconds

But this is wrong and I don't know where to go from here. Please help!
 
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Neither of your relevant equations is correct. For the first one, use ##\lambda_1 = c/f_1## and use ##\lambda_2 = c/f_2## and find what ##\lambda_1 - \lambda_2## equals. The second equation only applies if the time is the period of oscillation, which it isn't in this case.
 
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I'd have had approached the problem differently but I might be totally wrong.
Let me write the following to vela (please do not read this OP!):
Hey vela :)
I'd have used HUP for that one. So instead of looking for the delta lambda, I'd have looked for delta E and then apply the HUP to get delta t.
What do you think about the approach?
 
Yeah, that's correct.
 

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