Evaluate integral if R=[0,1]x[0,1]

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The problem involves evaluating a double integral over the region R = [0,1] x [0,1] of the function ln[(x+1)(y+1)]. Participants are exploring the properties of logarithms and integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using integration by parts and the properties of logarithms to simplify the integral. There is a suggestion to treat (x+1) as a constant during differentiation. Some participants consider splitting the integral into separate parts for x and y.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the integral. Some participants have provided guidance on the correct application of logarithmic properties and integration techniques, while others are questioning the validity of certain steps taken in the initial attempts.

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Participants note that there may have been errors in the application of integration by parts and the treatment of variables within the logarithmic function. The discussion reflects a mix of correct and incorrect reasoning regarding the manipulation of the integral.

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Homework Statement


evaluate integral if R=[0,1]x[0,1]

[tex]\iint_R ln[(x+1)(y+1)]dA[/tex]





The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1} ln[(x+1)(y+1)] dydx[/tex]

by parts

[tex]u=ln[(x+1)(y+1)]; du = \frac{1}{(x+1)(y+1)}dy;dv=dy;v=y[/tex]

[tex]\int_{0}^{1} \Bigg[\frac{y}{(x+1)(y+1)} - \frac{1}{x+1}\int_{0}^{1} 1 - \frac{1}{y+1}dy\Bigg]dx[/tex]

[tex]\int_{0}^{1} \Bigg[\frac{1}{2(x+1)} - \frac{1}{x+1} - \frac{ln(2)}{(x+1)}\Bigg]dx[/tex]


[tex]\frac{1}{2}ln(2) - ln(2) - ln^2(2)[/tex]

not sure what I did wrong but I know that's the incorrect answer
 
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jonroberts74 said:

Homework Statement


evaluate integral if R=[0,1]x[0,1][tex]\iint_R ln[(x+1)(y+1)]dA[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1} ln[(x+1)(y+1)] dydx[/tex]
by parts[tex]u=ln[(x+1)(y+1)]; du = \frac{1}{(x+1)(y+1)}dy;dv=dy;v=y[/tex]
[tex]\int_{0}^{1} \Bigg[\frac{y}{(x+1)(y+1)} - \frac{1}{x+1}\int_{0}^{1} 1 - \frac{1}{y+1}dy\Bigg]dx[/tex]
[tex]\int_{0}^{1} \Bigg[\frac{1}{2(x+1)} - \frac{1}{x+1} - \frac{ln(2)}{(x+1)}\Bigg]dx[/tex]
[tex]\frac{1}{2}ln(2) - ln(2) - ln^2(2)[/tex]
not sure what I did wrong but I know that's the incorrect answer
An error was made when you stated [tex]u=ln[(x+1)(y+1)];\ \ du = \frac{1}{(x+1)(y+1)}dy\ .[/tex]

Treat (x+1) as a constant (with respect to u). Then: Either use the chain rule, or write ##\ \ln[(x+1)(y+1)]\ ## as ##\ \ln(x+1)+\ln(y+1)\ ##
 
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so I could do

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}ln(x+1)dx+\int_{0}^{1}ln(y+1)dy[/tex]

forgot about the log properties for a second

or even

[tex]2\int_{0}^{1}ln(x+1)dx[/tex] or the y counterpart

[tex]2[(x+1)ln(x+1)-(x+1)]\Bigg|_{0}^{1} = 4ln(2)-2 = ln(16)-2[/tex]
 
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jonroberts74 said:
so I could do

[tex]\int_{0}^{1}ln(x+1)dx+\int_{0}^{1}ln(y+1)dy[/tex]

forgot about the log properties for a second

or even

[tex]2\int_{0}^{1}ln(x+1)dx[/tex] or the y counterpart

[tex]2[(x+1)ln(x+1)-(x+1)]\Bigg|_{0}^{1} = 4ln(2)-2 = ln(16)-2[/tex]
You can't generally do that sort of split for a double integral (or any iterated integral for that matter).

However, the following is true.

[itex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1} ln[(x+1)(y+1)]\, dydx=\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1} ln(x+1)\, dydx+\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1} ln(y+1)\, dydx[/itex]
 

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