Evaluating a double integral in polar coordinates

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the evaluation of a double integral in polar coordinates, specifically transforming a Cartesian integral representing a circular area into polar coordinates and addressing potential errors in the setup and evaluation of the integral.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about converting the Cartesian integral to polar coordinates and questions the correctness of their result, suggesting that their evaluation yields an answer that seems unrelated to the radius \(a\).
  • Another participant points out that the angle bounds for the integral should be from \(0\) to \(2\pi\) instead of \(0\) to \(\pi\), indicating a misunderstanding of the area being integrated.
  • A later reply reiterates the need for the correct bounds and provides a corrected integral setup, suggesting that the area should indeed yield \(\pi a^2\) when evaluated properly.
  • One participant acknowledges their initial misunderstanding of the problem's scope, noting that the original bounds describe the area of a whole circle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial setup of the integral, with some recognizing errors in bounds and others still expressing uncertainty about the evaluation process. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the initial confusion and the correct interpretation of the integral's bounds.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the understanding of the bounds of integration and the transformation process from Cartesian to polar coordinates. Some assumptions about the area being integrated may not have been fully clarified.

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I've done this problem and I have a feeling it's incorrect. I've never done a problem like this so I am kind of confused on how else to go about doing it. The goal is to change the cartesian integral
$$\int_{-a}^{a}\int_{-\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}^{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}\,dy\,dx$$
into an integral in polar coordinates and then evaluate it.
Changing to polar coordinates I got the integral
$$\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{-a}^{a}r\,dr\,d\theta$$
and evaluating this integral I ended up with an integrand of 0 to integrate with respect to \(d\theta\) and I wasn't entirely sure how to integrate that so I thought it might just be \(\pi\).
I really feel like there's no way that answer could be correct, seeing as the integral is of half a circle with radius \(a\) and the answer has nothing to do with \(a\). If someone could let me know where I went wrong that would be great.
 
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Re: evaluating a double integral in polar coordinates

Since you are integrating over an entire circle of radius |a| centred at (0, 0), that means the angle swept out is actually [math] \displaystyle 2\pi [/math], which means your [math] \displaystyle \theta [/math] bounds are actually 0 to [math]\displaystyle 2\pi [/math].
 
Re: evaluating a double integral in polar coordinates

skatenerd said:
I've done this problem and I have a feeling it's incorrect. I've never done a problem like this so I am kind of confused on how else to go about doing it. The goal is to change the cartesian integral
$$\int_{-a}^{a}\int_{-\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}^{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}\,dy\,dx$$
into an integral in polar coordinates and then evaluate it.
Changing to polar coordinates I got the integral
$$\int_{0}^{\pi}\int_{-a}^{a}r\,dr\,d\theta$$
and evaluating this integral I ended up with an integrand of 0 to integrate with respect to \(d\theta\) and I wasn't entirely sure how to integrate that so I thought it might just be \(\pi\).
I really feel like there's no way that answer could be correct, seeing as the integral is of half a circle with radius \(a\) and the answer has nothing to do with \(a\). If someone could let me know where I went wrong that would be great.

The bounds of the inner integral are 0 and a, not -a and a so that is...

$\displaystyle S= \int_{0}^{2\ \pi} \int_{0}^{a} r\ d r\ d \theta = \pi\ a^{2}$ (1)

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
Re: evaluating a double integral in polar coordinates

Thanks guys. I didn't recognize initially that the bounds of the original integral are describing the area of a whole circle. Pretty cool problem now that I get it!
 

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