Iterated Integral in Polar Coordinates

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In summary: You are doing a great job.In summary, the conversation discussed evaluating an iterated integral by converting to polar coordinates. The process involved rewriting an expression in polar form, graphing it to determine the limits of integration, and using a u-substitution to simplify the integral. The final answer was 2/3, which differed from the textbook's answer of 4/5. The conversation also touched on the importance of including negative signs when using u-substitution and the rule for reversing the limits of integration.
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Evaluate the iterated integral by converting to polar coordinates.

Let S S = interated integral symbol

S S xy dy dx

The inner integral limits are 0 to sqrt{2x - x^2}.

The outer integral limits are 0 to 2.

Solution:

I first decided to rewrite sqrt{2x - x^2} in polar form.

So, sqrt{2x - x^2} in polar form is r = 2cos(theta).

I then graphed sqrt{2x - x^2}.

From the graph, I determined that the limits of integration are follows:

r = 0 to 2cos(theta)

theta = 0 to pi/2

After working out the math, my answer is 4/5.

The textbook's answer is 2/3.

Help...
 
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\(\displaystyle I=\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\int_0^{2\cos(\theta)} r^3\,dr\,d\theta\)

\(\displaystyle I=\frac{1}{4}\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\left(\left.r^4\right|_0^{2\cos(\theta)}\right)\,d\theta\)

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(\theta)\cos^5(\theta)\,d\theta\)

Let:

\(\displaystyle u=\cos(\theta)\implies du=-\sin(\theta)\,d\theta\)

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^1 u^5\,du=\frac{4}{6}\left(\left.u^6\right|_0^1\right)=\frac{2}{3}\)

In the future, please don't begin a new thread to continue working on a problem you have previously posted. :D
 
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MarkFL said:
\(\displaystyle I=\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\int_0^{2\cos(\theta)} r^3\,dr\,d\theta\)

\(\displaystyle I=\frac{1}{4}\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\left(\left.r^4\right|_0^{2\cos(\theta)}\right)\,d\theta\)

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(\theta)\cos^5(\theta)\,d\theta\)

Let:

\(\displaystyle u=\cos(\theta)\implies du=-\sin(\theta)\,d\theta\)

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^1 u^5\,du=\frac{4}{6}\left(\left.u^6\right|_0^1\right)=\frac{2}{3}\)

In the future, please don't begin a new thread to continue working on a problem you have previously posted. :D

When you did a u-sub, du = - sin(theta)d(theta).

What happened to the negative sign?

You did not include the negative sign in the integrand.
 
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Harpazo said:
When you did a u-sub, du = - sin(theta)d(theta).

What happened to the negative sign?

You did not include the negative sign in the integrand.

This is what I did more fully explained...let's begin at this point:

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(\theta)\cos^5(\theta)\,d\theta\)

Let:

\(\displaystyle u=\cos(\theta)\implies du=-\sin(\theta)\,d\theta\)

Okay, we may write:

\(\displaystyle I=-4\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \cos^5(\theta)(-\sin(\theta))\,d\theta\)

Now, the limits of integration are in terms of $\theta$, but we want them now in terms of $u$, so we use:

\(\displaystyle u(\theta)=\cos(\theta)\)

And so:

\(\displaystyle u(0)=\cos(0)=1\)

\(\displaystyle u\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)=\cos\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)=0\)

And so after rewriting the integral in terms of $u$, we have:

\(\displaystyle I=-4\int_1^0 u^5\,du\)

Now, using the rule (which follows immediately from the anti-derivative form of the FTOC):

\(\displaystyle \int_a^b f(x)\,dx=-\int_b^a f(x)\,dx\)

We now have:

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^1 u^5\,du\)

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^1 u^5\,du=\frac{4}{6}\left(\left.u^6\right|_0^1\right)=\frac{2}{3}\)
 
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MarkFL said:
This is what I did more fully explained...let's begin at this point:

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(\theta)\cos^5(\theta)\,d\theta\)

Let:

\(\displaystyle u=\cos(\theta)\implies du=-\sin(\theta)\,d\theta\)

Okay, we may write:

\(\displaystyle I=-4\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \cos^5(\theta)(-\sin(\theta))\,d\theta\)

Now, the limits of integration are in terms of $\theta$, but we want them now in terms of $u$, so we use:

\(\displaystyle u(\theta)=\cos(\theta)\)

And so:

\(\displaystyle u(0)=\cos(0)=1\)

\(\displaystyle u\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)=\cos\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)=0\)

And so after rewriting the integral in terms of $u$, we have:

\(\displaystyle I=-4\int_1^0 u^5\,du\)

Now, using the rule (which follows immediately from the anti-derivative form of the FTOC):

\(\displaystyle \int_a^b f(x)\,dx=-\int_b^a f(x)\,dx\)

We now have:

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^1 u^5\,du\)

\(\displaystyle I=4\int_0^1 u^5\,du=\frac{4}{6}\left(\left.u^6\right|_0^1\right)=\frac{2}{3}\)

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3. What is the order of integration in an iterated integral?

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