Evaluating a Sum: Understanding the Solution

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The discussion centers around evaluating a sum where the answer is claimed to be 5, but confusion arises regarding the interpretation of the index and the summation process. Participants debate whether the sum should be evaluated over n or k, with some suggesting that a common arithmetic series table could clarify the solution. It is emphasized that if the index stops at one, the answer could misleadingly appear as 5, but this does not hold for larger values of n. Ultimately, the correct understanding is that the sum involves adding a constant term, leading to the conclusion that the answer remains 5 for any value of n. The conversation highlights the importance of carefully reading the problem to avoid misinterpretation.
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can someone help me solve this please?
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That's an interesting one. Does it say what you are supposed to do?
 
PeroK said:
That's an interesting one. Does it say what you are supposed to do?
It says to evaluate the sum. The answer should be 5. The problem is how he got to 5.
 
martina1075 said:
It says to evaluate the sum. The answer should be 5. The problem is how he got to 5.

Have you tried with one or two values for ##n## to see what you get?
 
I don't understand. Where is k in the sum? Shouldn't the sum be over n?

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if I tell you to evaluate $$\sum_{k=1}^n c$$ where c is some constant that does not depend on k(but might depend on other things like n for example) what will your answer be?
 
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berkeman said:
I don't understand. Where is k in the sum? Shouldn't the sum be over n?

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That's what I thought at first, hence post #2. But, then, I saw the light!
 
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There should be a table in your textbook for common arithmetic series. There is no way that the answer is 5.
 
osilmag said:
There should be a table in your textbook for common arithmetic series. There is no way that the answer is 5.

Read the question carefully!
 
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osilmag said:
There should be a table in your textbook for common arithmetic series.
No table is needed.
osilmag said:
There is no way that the answer is 5.
See Delta2's hint in post 6.
 
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PeroK said:
Read the question carefully!

I did!

Five is if the index stops at one. It doesn't state that in the problem, but it sure tricked me.
 
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osilmag said:
I did!

Five is if the index stops at one. It doesn't state that in the problem, but it sure tricked me.

The answer is ##5## for any value of ##n##.
 
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PeroK said:
Read the question carefully!
osilmag said:
I did!
Read it even more carefully!
osilmag said:
Five is if the index stops at one. It doesn't state that in the problem, but it sure tricked me.
If n = 2, we have
$$\sum_{k = 1}^2 5 \cdot \frac 1 2 = 5 \cdot \frac 1 2 + 5 \cdot \frac 1 2 = ?$$

What if n = 3? What if n = 4?
 
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Ok. I got it! Like I said it tricked me.

I had thought the index counted up from k to n.
 
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osilmag said:
Ok. I got it! Like I said it tricked me.

I had thought the index counted up from k to n.
No, the index k counts up from 1 to n. Since the summand doesn't involve k, and so is constant, we're just adding ##5 \cdot \frac 1 n## n times.
 
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Mark44 said:
No, the index k counts up from 1 to n. Since the summand doesn't involve k, and so is constant, we're just adding ##5 \cdot \frac 1 n## n times.

... which is essentially the definition of ##n \times \frac 5 n##.
 
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PeroK said:
... which is essentially the definition of ##n \times \frac 5 n##.
But is not the usual definition of "5"!
 
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