Evaluating an Improper Integral using a Double Integral

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral \(\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\tan^{-1}(6x)-\tan^{-1}(2x)}{x}dx\) by rewriting the numerator as a double integral and reversing the order of integration. The subject area includes improper integrals and double integrals.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore rewriting the numerator of the integrand as an integral and discuss changing the limits of integration. There are attempts to clarify the correct setup for the double integral and the implications of changing the order of integration.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided guidance on adjusting the limits of integration and the placement of terms within the integrals. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of these adjustments, and some participants express uncertainty about the validity of specific steps in the integration process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of maintaining proper notation and the potential confusion arising from the use of the "implies" symbol in mathematical expressions. There is also mention of the need to visualize the region of integration to correctly set up the double integral.

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Homework Statement



Here is a more interesting problem to consider. We want to evaluate the improper integral

\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\tan^{-1}(6x)-\tan^{-1}(2x)}{x}dx

Do it by rewriting the numerator of the integrand as \intop_{f(x)}^{g(x)}h(y)dy for appropriate f, g, h and then reversing the order of integration in the resulting double integral.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Writing the numerator of the integrand as an integral:
\Rightarrow\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dy}{x}dx
\Rightarrow\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dydx
\Rightarrow\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dxdy

But it seems to be a dead end from here since you have to evaluate x at infinity and 0. I don't know how to continue from here.
 
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Can you change the limits of integration so the interior limits are in terms of y? And the exterior limits might be for y from zero to infinity.
 
whoareyou said:
Writing the numerator of the integrand as an integral:
\Rightarrow\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dy}{x}dx
\Rightarrow\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dydx
\Rightarrow\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dxdy
Minor point. The "implies" arrow, ##\Rightarrow##, should not be used in place of =; i.e., between expressions that have equal values. Because it means "implies" you also shouldn't use it is the first symbol you write in your work.

"Implies" should be used between two statements (generally equations or inequalities) where the first being true means that the following statement will also be true.

As a simple example,
$$x^2 - 3x + 2 = 0$$
$$\Rightarrow (x - 2)(x - 1) = 0$$
$$\Rightarrow x = 2 \text{ or } x = 1$$
 
RUber said:
Can you change the limits of integration so the interior limits are in terms of y? And the exterior limits might be for y from zero to infinity.

I don't understand? The question specifically says that the bounds for the integral in the numerator should be functions of x.

Edit: I think I made a mistake with the bounds when I switched the order of integration. I think it should be:

\intop_{y/2}^{y/6}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dxdy

But I still run into the same problem ...

Mark44 said:
Minor point. The "implies" arrow, ##\Rightarrow##, should not be used in place of =; i.e., between expressions that have equal values. Because it means "implies" you also shouldn't use it is the first symbol you write in your work.

"Implies" should be used between two statements (generally equations or inequalities) where the first being true means that the following statement will also be true.

As a simple example,
$$x^2 - 3x + 2 = 0$$
$$\Rightarrow (x - 2)(x - 1) = 0$$
$$\Rightarrow x = 2 \text{ or } x = 1$$

Thanks for the explanation! I always try to make my answers more formal by trying to write my solutions as they would appear in the textbook.
 
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Your 1/x should be inside the integral with respect to x. Also the limits in terms of y have to be on the inside integral with respect to x. That should take care if the infinity problem.
 
whoareyou said:

Homework Statement



Here is a more interesting problem to consider. We want to evaluate the improper integral

\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\tan^{-1}(6x)-\tan^{-1}(2x)}{x}dx

Do it by rewriting the numerator of the integrand as \intop_{f(x)}^{g(x)}h(y)dy for appropriate f, g, h and then reversing the order of integration in the resulting double integral.

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



Writing the numerator of the integrand as an integral:
\Rightarrow\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dy}{x}dx
\Rightarrow\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dydx
\Rightarrow\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dxdy

But it seems to be a dead end from here since you have to evaluate x at infinity and 0. I don't know how to continue from here.

You start with
\int_{x=0}^{\infty} \int_{y=2x}^{6x} \cdots \: dy \: dx
Here, ##x## goes from 0 to ##\infty## and ##y## goes from ##2x## to ##6x##. So, if you draw an ##xy## diagram and plot the integration region, you will see that any ##y## from ##0## to ##\infty## can occur, and for any fixed ##y > 0##, ##x## will run from ##y/6## to ##y/2##. Thus, you can write, instead:
\int_{y=0}^{\infty} \int_{x=y/6}^{y/3} \cdots \: dx \: dy
 
\Rightarrow\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dydx
\Rightarrow\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dxdy

But it seems to be a dead end from here since you have to evaluate x at infinity and 0. I don't know how to continue from here.[/QUOTE]

When you change the order of integration you have to change the limits accordingly. You need to draw a picture of the region of integration to see the dxdy limits. Draw a picture of the region described in the first integral above between ##y=2x## and ##y=6x## as ##x## goes from ##0## to ##\infty##. Then set it up as a dxdy integral using the picture.
 
Following your suggestions, I got this:
$$\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\tan^{-1}(6x)-\tan^{-1}(2x)}{x}dx$$
=\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dy}{x}dx
=\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{x}\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dydx
=\intop_{0}^{\infty}\intop_{2x}^{6x}\frac{1}{x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dydx
=\intop_{0}^{\infty}\intop_{y/6}^{y/2}\frac{1}{x}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dxdy
=\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}\intop_{y/6}^{y/2}\frac{1}{x}dxdy
=\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}[\ln(x)]^{y/2}_{y/6}dy
=\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}[\ln(3)]dy
=\ln(3)\intop_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+y^{2}}dy
=\ln(3)[\tan^{-1}(x)]^{\infty}_{0}
=\frac{\pi}{2}\ln(3)

This seems to be the correct answer. However, I'm unsure of the validity of the steps. Like in the third step, is it legal to just bring the 1/x inside the second integral?
 
Yes, that is always valid. As far as integration with respect to y is concerned, "x" is a constant. \frac{1}{x}\int_{2x}^{6x} \frac{1}{x^2+ 1} dy= \int_{2x}^{6x} \frac{1}{x}\frac{1}{y^2+ 1} dy is exactly the same as C\int_{2x}^{6x} \frac{1}{x^2+ 1} dy= \int_{2x}^{6x} C\frac{1}{y^2+ 1} dy
 

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