Evaluating Integrals Divisions for Physics Homework

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating the root-mean-square radius in a physics context, specifically using integrals involving a density function \(\rho\). Participants are exploring the implications of both constant and variable density in the integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the behavior of the integrals as they approach infinity and question the validity of using L'Hôpital's rule in this context. There is uncertainty about the implications of having infinite values in both the numerator and denominator.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights about the integrals and expressing doubts regarding the outcomes. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of the integrals, but no consensus has been reached on how to proceed with the evaluation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of the integrals diverging to infinity and the potential cancellation of the constant \(\rho\) in their calculations. There is a focus on the mathematical treatment of these integrals without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


It's a physics problem, where i have to evaluate the root-mean-square radius defined by the expression below. (First for a constant \rho, then for a "(r)dependent" \rho).

Homework Equations


(\int{_0}{^\infty} \rho r^4 dr / \int{_0}{^\infty} \rho r^2 dr) ^(1/2)

The Attempt at a Solution


So... i know that each of this two integrals goes to infinity. But I wonder about their division... I'm not sure what to do.
 
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emol1414 said:

Homework Equations


(\int{_0}{^\infty} \rho r^4 dr / \int{_0}{^\infty} \rho r^2 dr) ^(1/2)

I'm really trying to edit it and make the expression look nice, but i can't figure out how to do it.
Anywayz... it's the first integral (from 0 to infinity) divided by the second integral (also 0 to infinity). And then the square root of this.
 
Fixed your LaTeX.
emol1414 said:

Homework Statement


It's a physics problem, where i have to evaluate the root-mean-square radius defined by the expression below. (First for a constant \rho, then for a "(r)dependent" \rho).


Homework Equations


\sqrt{\frac{\int_0^{\infty} \rho r^4 dr }{\int_0^{\infty} \rho r^2 dr}}


The Attempt at a Solution


So... i know that each of this two integrals goes to infinity. But I wonder about their division... I'm not sure what to do.
 
Thank you, Mark! ^^

Now... with the correct latex code =P Could anyone give me a enlightenment here, how to work with this?

I thought... if i have \infty both "sides" up and down... i could use L'Hopital. But I keep thinking this would be just 'too easy' Oo Idk why, but doesn't sound right to me.
Any ideias?
 
Hm... even using L'Hopital (e.g, for a constante \rho) i would get a \infty root-mean-square radius anyway. It doesn't make sense, i think
 
Of course, the constant \rho cancels. Now, recall that
\int_a^\infty f(x)dx= \lim_{b\to\infty}\int_a^b f(x)dx

\int_0^b r^4 dr= \frac{1}{5}b^5
and
\int_0^c r^2 dr= \frac{1}{5}c^3
and taking the limit as c and b go to infinity independently gives no integral.
 

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