Evaluating limit as h->0 of (e^h-1)/h

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The discussion focuses on evaluating the limit of (e^h - 1)/h as h approaches 0 to differentiate e^x from first principles. Participants suggest using the definition of e, where e can be approximated as (1 + h)^(1/h) for small h, leading to e^h being approximated by 1 + h. There is debate about the applicability of L'Hôpital's rule, with some arguing it cannot be used since the derivative of e^x is what the original poster is trying to prove. Ultimately, simplifying the expression leads to resolving the 0/0 form, confirming that lim_{h → 0} (1 + h - 1)/h simplifies to 1. The conversation emphasizes the importance of careful manipulation of limits in calculus.
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I'm trying to differentiate e^x from first principles but I can't find a way to manipulate this expression \frac{e^h-1}{h} so I can evaluate the limit without getting 0/0
 
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Use the definition of e:
lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \left( 1 + h \right)^{1/h} = e
So for small values of h,
e \approx \left( 1 + h \right)^{1/h}, or
e^h \approx 1 + h.

Replace eh in \frac{e^h-1}{h} with 1 + h and go on from there.
 
Diffy said:
L'hopitals rule works here too :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Hôpital's_rule

In order to use L'Hopital's rule, you need to know the derivative of ex, but that's what the OP is trying to prove. To use L'Hopital's rule in this case would be circular logic.
 
Diffy said:
L'hopitals rule works here too :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Hôpital's_rule

I'm not sure how. The OP is trying to "differentiate ex from first principles," which I assume means that he/she want to find the derivative of ex by using the limit definition:
\frac{d}{dx}e^x = lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{e^{x+h} - e^x}{h} = ...
I don't think you can use L'Hopitals' Rule when we "don't know" the derivative of ex yet.EDIT: Beaten to it by Mute. :wink:
 
Oops my bad. I didn't read.
 
eumyang said:
Use the definition of e:
lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \left( 1 + h \right)^{1/h} = e
So for small values of h,
e \approx \left( 1 + h \right)^{1/h}, or
e^h \approx 1 + h.

Replace eh in \frac{e^h-1}{h} with 1 + h and go on from there.

Don't we get 0/0 again?

Limit h->0

\frac{1+h-1}{h}
 
autodidude said:
Don't we get 0/0 again?

Limit h->0

\frac{1+h-1}{h}
Um, you need to simplify the expression.
lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{1+h-1}{h} = lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{h}{h} = ...
 
^ Ah, thanks a lot...must've had a brain meltdown :p
 

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