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Many people have claimed that evolution started life. I'd say it did not. Life started evolution. Before there is evolution, there must be life. Am I right?
http://www.universetoday.com/41024/abiogenesis/ABIOGENESIS
22 Sep , 2009 by Jean Tate
How did life on Earth arise? Scientific efforts to answer that question are called abiogenesis. More formally, abiogenesis is a theory, or set of theories, concerning how life on Earth began (but excluding panspermia).
Note that while abiogenesis and evolution are related, they are distinct (evolution says nothing about how life began; abiogenesis says nothing about how life evolves).
Jupiter60 said:Many people have claimed that evolution started life. I'd say it did not. Life started evolution. Before there is evolution, there must be life. Am I right?
Kilo Vectors said:Only intelligent life can create information
RoBabu said:I cannot believe that the mentor on this thread posted such flawed information!
OK I agree, it's a hypothesis that says life can be created from non-living materials.Drakkith said:... Abiogenesis is a theory on the origin of life here on Earth.
Why do you say so ?Biogenesis is not.
Louis Pasteur's experiment supports the hypothesis of biogenesis. So I don't see the point as to why you turn it down as a "hypothesis" of life origin.From wikipedia said:The term biogenesis was coined by Henry Charlton Bastian to mean the generation of a life form from nonliving materials, however, Thomas Henry Huxley chose the term abiogenesis and redefined biogenesis for life arising from preexisting life.[3] The generation of life from non-living material is called abiogenesis, and occurred at least once in the history of the Earth,[4][5] or in the history of the Universe (see panspermia), when life first arose.[6][7][8]
The term biogenesis may also refer to biochemical processes of production in living organisms (see biosynthesis).
Silicon Waffle said:Louis Pasteur's experiment supports the hypothesis of biogenesis. So I don't see the point as to why you turn it down as a "hypothesis" of life origin.
rootone said:The simplest self replicating molecule we know of seems to be RNA, as viruses.
rootone said:The simplest self replicating molecule we know of seems to be RNA, as viruses.
That is one of the difficulties for people to also consider a pre-RNA (PNA) world. This is an interesting summary about chemicals and pre-life.rootone said:The simplest self replicating molecule we know of seems to be RNA, as viruses.
Yet RNA only can do that by taking over the reproductive machinery of more complex cellular organisms.
It's a puzzle.
rootone said:The simplest self replicating molecule we know of seems to be RNA, as viruses.
Drakkith said:I don't think that's true, but I'll have to look around to see if I can find the information on it.
At its heart, a living organism is a system of chemicals that has the capacity to catalyze its own reproduction . . . a collectively autocatalytic system is one in which the molecules speed up the very reactions by which they themselves are formed: A makes B, B makes C, C makes A again. Now imagine a whole network of these self-propelling loops. Given a supply of food molecules, the network will be able to constantly re-create itself. Like the metabolic networks that inhabit every living cell, it will be alive.
“How likely is it that such a self-sustaining web of reactions would arise naturally? . . . The answer is heartening: The emergence of autocatalytic sets is almost inevitable. As the diversity of molecules in the (pre-biotic) Earth increased, the ratio of reactions to chemicals increase. As the ratio of chemicals to reactions increases, the number of reactions that are catalyzed by the molecules in the system increases. When the number of catalyzed reactions is about equal to the number of chemicals, a giant catalyzed reaction web forms, and a collective autocatalytic system snaps into existence. A living metabolism crystallizes. Life emerges as a phase transition.”
Evolution is the process by which different species of living organisms develop and change over time. This is driven by natural selection, genetic variation, and other mechanisms.
No, evolution did not start life. Evolution is a process that takes place after life has already begun. The origin of life is a separate scientific question that is still being studied and debated.
The theory of evolution is a well-supported explanation for how life on Earth has changed over time. It is based on the principles of natural selection and genetic variation, and is supported by evidence from multiple fields of science.
No, evolution is not "just" a theory. In science, a theory is a well-substantiated explanation for a phenomenon, supported by a large body of evidence. The theory of evolution has been extensively tested and supported by evidence from multiple disciplines, making it a widely accepted scientific theory.
No, evolution is not a random process. While genetic mutations that drive evolutionary change may occur randomly, the process of natural selection acts on these variations in a non-random way to promote traits that are beneficial for survival and reproduction, leading to changes in species over time.