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The discussion centers around a research summary published in the June 2005 issue of Psychology, Public Policy and Law, which addresses the genetic influences on intelligence and the racial gaps in g-loaded abilities. Participants express strong opinions about the validity of the research, particularly the work of Rushton and Jensen. Some argue that denying genetic effects on intelligence is unrealistic, while others criticize the research as racially biased and suggest it perpetuates harmful stereotypes. There is acknowledgment of the complexity of the topic, with participants noting flaws in both sides of the argument and the difficulty in changing entrenched beliefs. The conversation reflects a deep divide over the interpretation of intelligence research and its implications for policy and societal understanding. The thread concludes with a suggestion to close the discussion to prevent further escalation of tensions.
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Here is a summary of the research published in the June 2005 issue of Psychology, Public Policy and Law, a journal of the American Psychological Association: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-04/cdri-bai042505.php

Also see http://www.news-medical.net/print_article.asp?id=9530

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Dennis4 said:
Doing a search, I found the actual American Psychological Association research paper itself, free to download and read: http://taxa.epi.umn.edu/~mbmiller/journals/pppl/200504/

Excellent. Particularly Rushton & Jensen's reply, the last paper in the list. People who deny the genetic effect on g, or the black white gap on g-loaded abilities, are living in a dream world.

It is truly sad that this is so, but we will have no success with policies based on sentimental falsehoods. We need to face up to the real needs of the black community.
 
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I think it's a rehash of the same racially biased stuff from the same racially biased people. We've discussed this stuff ad nauseum here and it's like religion, no point arguing about it, you're not going to change anyone's mind on either side of the fence.
 
Evo said:
I think it's a rehash of the same racially biased stuff from the same racially biased people. We've discussed this stuff ad nauseum here and it's like religion, no point arguing about it, you're not going to change anyone's mind on either side of the fence.

I could agree with your second sentence, but your first one is an insult to Rushton, to Jensen, and to me. Could you just climb down off your high horse and look at the evidence they marshall?
 
No offense was intended to you SA, I apologize, I should have been more specific, and a person can agree with their findings without being racist, but honestly, it is a widely held opinion of them for various reasons and Rushton certainly does have an agenda.

I do think Jensen is not to be lumped in wholesale with the likes of Rushton though. Jensen, in my opinion, is of a higher caliber and I do find a lot of his work was well done.

I have read many of the papers referenced and the papers that have debunked them and I tend to see flaws on both sides, the methods used in many of the papers cited, however, do tend to have questionable results.
 
Evo said:
No offense was intended to you SA, I apologize, I should have been more specific, and a person can agree with their findings without being racist, but honestly, it is a widely held opinion of them for various reasons and Rushton certainly does have an agenda.

I do think Jensen is not to be lumped in wholesale with the likes of Rushton though. Jensen, in my opinion, is of a higher caliber and I do find a lot of his work was well done.

I have read many of the papers referenced and the papers that have debunked them and I tend to see flaws on both sides, the methods used in many of the papers cited, however, do tend to have questionable results.


With that said, I think we can close this thread before the real racists and tabula rasists find it and corrupt it..
 
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