Examining Augmented Matrices: Understanding Solutions and Inconsistencies

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The discussion revolves around understanding the properties of augmented matrices, particularly in relation to the solutions of linear systems. Participants are examining the implications of the determinant of the coefficient matrix being zero and the conditions under which the system may have infinite solutions or no solutions.

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  • Participants are checking their reasoning regarding the determinant of the coefficient matrix and its implications for the uniqueness of solutions. Some are questioning the wording of the problem and the definitions of terms like "inconsistent." There is also a focus on the significance of specific values in the context of the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants engaging in clarifying their thoughts and questioning each other's assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of certain parts of the problem that were skipped, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

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There are indications of missing information and potential ambiguities in the problem's wording, which participants are addressing as they explore the implications of the determinant and the conditions for inconsistency.

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I attached the problem.

I just wanted to check if I'm thinking about a few of these parts correctly.

a) yes because the coefficient matrix has 2 rows that are multiples of each other, thus det=0
b)Yes, but the system does not have a unique solution b/c 2 rows are multiples of each other in the coefficient matrix.
c) Imma skip this
d) skipping this
e) I think they worded this problem wrong. if det(coefficient matrix)=0, then there exists either inifinite many solutions OR NO solutions.
f) skip
 

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pyroknife said:
I attached the problem.

I just wanted to check if I'm thinking about a few of these parts correctly.

a) yes because the coefficient matrix has 2 rows that are multiples of each other, thus det=0
Correct.
b)Yes, but the system does not have a unique solution b/c 2 rows are multiples of each other in the coefficient matrix.
Consider what happens if, say, a = 1 and d = 1.
e) I think they worded this problem wrong. if det(coefficient matrix)=0, then there exists either inifinite many solutions OR NO solutions.
And whether there are infinitely many solutions or no solutions depends on a, b, c, d. I agree that the wording of this question is strange.
 
It is unfortunate that you skipped over c and d because they are essential to e and f! d asked you to tell what must be true of the last column in order that the system be "inconsistent". e asks you to tell wheter or not, in that case, there are an infinite number of solutions or no solution. What does "inconsistent" mean?

f happens to give you a set of values in which the last number is twice the first number. Do you see why that is important?
 
jbunniii said:
Consider what happens if, say, a = 1 and d = 1.

Well since 2 rows in the coefficient matrix are multiples of each other, the system is either going to have a free variable, thus one option is infinite solutions. But if it's inconsistent, then there's no solutions. I don't think it's possible for the system to have a unique solution independent of a, b, c, d.

HallsofIvy said:
It is unfortunate that you skipped over c and d because they are essential to e and f! d asked you to tell what must be true of the last column in order that the system be "inconsistent". e asks you to tell wheter or not, in that case, there are an infinite number of solutions or no solution. What does "inconsistent" mean?

f happens to give you a set of values in which the last number is twice the first number. Do you see why that is important?

Well I did them, posting my work would have just taken a while.
 

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