Example of a homogeneous, but not isotropic system

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Linear momentum and angular momentum are not completely independent, as demonstrated by their conservation laws under specific conditions. While angular momentum can be conserved for a uniformly moving body, linear momentum is not conserved for a uniformly revolving body due to the forces involved. The discussion raises the question of whether there are systems where linear momentum is conserved while angular momentum is not, suggesting that such systems would need to be homogeneous but not isotropic. Clarification is sought on the definitions of isotropy and homogeneity, particularly regarding whether isotropy must hold at all points in a system. Understanding these concepts is crucial for further exploration of momentum conservation in different systems.
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Hi,

I have some trouble understanding if linear momentum and angular momentum (and their conservation laws) are completely independent or not. For example, one can calculate the angular momentum of a uniformly moving body with respect to a fixed point in space and show that it is indeed conserved. It doesn't work the other way around, the linear momentum of a uniformly revolving body is not conserved. This makes some sense from a Noetherian point of view, since the center of the circular motion must exert an isotropic force, which makes the system isotropic but not homogeneous.

Are there systems where linear momentum is conserved, but angular momentum is not? This would need a homogeneous, but not isotropic system, and I can't think of one (but I also have some trouble with the terms homogeneous and isotropic, so maybe there are very simple examples).

Thanks
 
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Thanks, I will study this thread, but a very basic question first: If a system is isotropic, does this mean that there is (at least) one point in the system from which "the system looks the same if you look in any direction", or does this have to be fulfilled at any point in the system?
 
Topic about reference frames, center of rotation, postion of origin etc Comoving ref. frame is frame that is attached to moving object, does that mean, in that frame translation and rotation of object is zero, because origin and axes(x,y,z) are fixed to object? Is it same if you place origin of frame at object center of mass or at object tail? What type of comoving frame exist? What is lab frame? If we talk about center of rotation do we always need to specified from what frame we observe?

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