Excellent question: A=infinity, V=pi?

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical question concerning the area under the curve of the function 1/x and the volume of the solid formed by rotating this curve around the x-axis. The original poster presents calculations showing that the area diverges to infinity while the volume converges to a finite value, specifically pi. This raises questions about the apparent contradiction between infinite area and finite volume.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the calculations presented, questioning the intuitive conflict between infinite area and finite volume. Some suggest examining the properties of shapes with finite volumes and infinite surface areas, while others reference specific mathematical concepts related to this phenomenon.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights and perspectives on the paradox presented. There is an exploration of the mathematical implications without reaching a consensus, as various interpretations and clarifications are being considered.

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Participants reference Gabriel's Horn, a specific example of a solid of revolution that illustrates the concepts being discussed. The nature of the problem invites deeper inquiry into the definitions and assumptions surrounding area and volume in calculus.

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My professor posed a brain teaser question today, and I can't get it out of my mind. I was hoping the forum can help me make sense of it.

Area under 1/x = infinity:
[tex]A = \int_{1}^{\infty} (1/x)dx[/tex]
[tex]A = \lim_{t\rightarrow \infty} \int_{1}^{t} (1/x)dx[/tex]
[tex]A = \lim_{t\rightarrow \infty} \ln t - \ln 1[/tex]
[tex]A = \infty[/tex]

but the volume of 1/x rotated around the x-axis is equal to pi
[tex]V = \pi \int_{1}^{\infty} (1/x)^2dx[/tex]
[tex]V = \pi \lim_{t\rightarrow \infty} \int_{1}^{t} (1/x)^2dx[/tex]
[tex]= \pi \lim_{t\rightarrow \infty} (-1/t + 1/1)[/tex]
[tex]= \pi (1)[/tex]

How can this be true?
 
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Well, one way to break down your intuitive opposition to it is that for circles with small radii, pi times the square of the radius is smaller than the radius itself.
 
silverdiesel said:
How can this be true?
Why can't it be true :wink: ?

It seems that popularly said, it is perfectly possible to create a mathematical 'object' with a finite volume but an infinite surface area (which is 2*pi times the integral you calculated first).
 
See .[/URL] Especially the paragraph about the "paradox" that you could fill this shape with a finite amount of paint, but cover an infinite surface area.
 
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The solid of revolution formed by rotating y=1/x about the x-axis from x=1 to infinity is called Gabriel's Horn.
 

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