Existence of Derivative at x=0

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The problem involves determining the existence of the derivative of the function f(x) defined as f(x) = xsin(1/x) for x ≠ 0 and f(0) = 0 at the point x = 0. The original poster questions whether the function has a cusp at this point and seeks visual confirmation of the result.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the squeeze theorem to establish continuity at x = 0, while also examining the limit involved in computing the derivative. There are questions about the nature of the function at x = 0, particularly regarding the presence of a cusp.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants asserting that the derivative does not exist at x = 0 due to the limit not converging. Others suggest using graphing tools for further exploration and provide insights into related functions that are differentiable.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the behavior of the sine function and its bounded nature, as well as the implications of the squeeze theorem in this context. There is an emphasis on the limits and continuity without reaching a definitive conclusion about the derivative's existence.

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Homework Statement


f(x)= xsin(1/x) if x!=0
= 0 if x=0

does the derivative exist at x=0?

Can somebody please provide a visual backup of the result? Is this supposed to be a cusp that's why there is no derivative on a continuous function?

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Using the squeeze theorem we see that the function is continuous at 0, but when we compute the derivative limit, we are left with limit[h->0]sin(1/h) which doesn't exist.
 
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Right, the limit does not exist, so f is not differentiable at 0.

Why don't you try an online graphing calculator, e.g:http://www.meta-calculator.com/online/

You can zoom-in for better info.

Note that (h^2)sin(1/h) ; 0 at 0 is differentiable everywhere--limit at 0 is

h*sin(1/h)-->0
 
The derivative at 0 is given by
[tex]\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(h)- f(0)}{h}=\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{h sin(1/h)}{h}= \lim_{h\to 0}sin(1/h)[/tex]
As h goes to 0, 1/h goes to infinity so sin(1/h) alternates and does not have a limit.

No, there is no "cusp". That occurs when you have differing limits from the right and left. Here, there is no "limit from the left" or "limit from the right".
 
Recall that : |sinx| ≤ 1 [itex]\forall[/itex]x[itex]\in[/itex][itex]\Re[/itex]

Which means : -1 ≤ sinx ≤ 1 [itex]\forall[/itex]x[itex]\in[/itex][itex]\Re[/itex]

Lets say f(x) = sinx, you now have f(x) bounded between h(x) = -1 and g(x) = 1. Now think about the squeeze theorem.
 

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