Expanding a function in terms of a vector

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The discussion revolves around expanding a function \( L(v^2 + 2 \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{\epsilon} + \pmb{\epsilon}^2) \), where \( \pmb{\epsilon} \) is an infinitesimal vector and \( \pmb{v} \) is a constant vector. The goal is to express this expansion in terms of powers of \( \pmb{\epsilon} \), specifically focusing on first-order terms.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of Taylor expansion for the function \( L \) and question its applicability when \( \pmb{\epsilon} \) is a vector rather than a scalar. There is also a focus on the nature of the derivatives involved, particularly whether to use partial derivatives or total derivatives.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the Taylor expansion approach, while others are questioning the notation and the type of derivatives used in the context of the function \( L \). The discussion is exploring different interpretations and clarifications regarding the mathematical expressions involved.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing debate about the notation used for derivatives, particularly whether \( \frac{\partial L}{\partial v^2} \) is appropriate given the context of the function's domain. Participants are also considering the implications of treating \( \pmb{\epsilon} \) as a vector in the expansion process.

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Homework Statement


## L (v^2 + 2 \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{ \epsilon } ~ + \pmb{ \epsilon} ^2)##, where ## \pmb{\epsilon}## is infinitesimal and ##\pmb{v}## is a constant vector (## v^2 ## here means ## \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{v} ## ), must be expanded in terms of powers of ## \pmb{\epsilon} ## to give $$ L(v^2)+\frac{\partial L}{\partial v^2}\ 2 \ \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{\epsilon} $$
where terms above the first order have been neglected.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I thought about using the Taylor expansion to expand L in terms of ## \pmb{\epsilon} ##, but that seems to work only if ##\epsilon ## were a scalar, so I'm not quite sure what to use to expand L.
 
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tissuejkl said:

Homework Statement


## L (v^2 + 2 \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{ \epsilon } ~ + \pmb{ \epsilon} ^2)##, where ## \pmb{\epsilon}## is infinitesimal and ##\pmb{v}## is a constant vector (## v^2 ## here means ## \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{v} ## ), must be expanded in terms of powers of ## \pmb{\epsilon} ## to give $$ L(v^2)+\frac{\partial L}{\partial v^2}\ 2 \ \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{\epsilon} $$
where terms above the first order have been neglected.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought about using the Taylor expansion to expand L in terms of ## \pmb{\epsilon} ##, but that seems to work only if ##\epsilon ## were a scalar, so I'm not quite sure what to use to expand L.
What is your question? Are you trying to show that ## L (v^2 + 2 \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{ \epsilon } ~ + \pmb{ \epsilon} ^2) \approx L(v^2)+\frac{\partial L}{\partial v^2}\ 2 \ \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{\epsilon} ##?
 
Mark44 said:
What is your question? Are you trying to show that ## L (v^2 + 2 \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{ \epsilon } ~ + \pmb{ \epsilon} ^2) \approx L(v^2)+\frac{\partial L}{\partial v^2}\ 2 \ \pmb{v} \cdot \pmb{\epsilon} ##?
Yes. Sorry, I should have made that clearer.
 
It looks to me like they're doing something like this:
##f(x + \Delta x) \approx f(x) + f'(x) \cdot \Delta x##
IOW, it's the Taylor expansion with terms only up to the first derivative.
 
Mark44 said:
It looks to me like they're doing something like this:
##f(x + \Delta x) \approx f(x) + f'(x) \cdot \Delta x##
IOW, it's the Taylor expansion with terms only up to the first derivative.
Is there a reason why the derivative in the second term should be the partial derivative ## \frac{\partial L}{\partial v^2} ##, then?
 
tissuejkl said:
Is there a reason why the derivative in the second term should be the partial derivative ## \frac{\partial L}{\partial v^2} ##, then?
The domain of L is a subset of ##\mathbb R##, not a subset of ##\mathbb R^n## with n>1, so L doesn't have partial derivatives. Maybe that's just a terrible notation for ##L'(\pmb v^2)##.

I would start like this and then just use the chain rule:
$$L(\mathbf v^2+2\pmb v\cdot\pmb\varepsilon+\pmb\varepsilon^2) = L(\pmb v^2)+\varepsilon_i\frac{\partial}{\partial \varepsilon_i}\bigg|_{\pmb 0} L(\pmb v^2+2\pmb v\cdot\pmb\varepsilon+\pmb\varepsilon^2).$$
 
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