Expanding Fourier Series to Different Periods

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The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier series for a piecewise function defined on specific intervals and expanding it to a broader interval. The original poster presents two main questions: the first involves determining the appropriate period for the function, while the second concerns how to expand a continuous function defined on [0, pi/2] to [-pi, pi] to achieve a desired Fourier series representation.

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  • Participants discuss the periodicity of the function, with some suggesting it is periodic with a period of 2pi, while others express confusion over the correct period. There are attempts to clarify how to expand the function to ensure that certain coefficients in the Fourier series are zero. Questions arise about the symmetry of the function and how that relates to the coefficients of the series.

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Participants are actively exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the periodicity and the necessary conditions for the Fourier series coefficients. Some guidance has been offered regarding the symmetry of functions and how it affects the coefficients, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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There are mentions of specific constraints related to the continuity and piecewise nature of the function, as well as the need for the Fourier series to reflect certain properties based on the symmetry of the function being expanded.

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Homework Statement


1. Find the Fourier series of the function:
f(x)= 1 when -pi/2 < x < pi/2
-1 when pi/2 < x < 3pi/2

2. Let f be a functin that is defined in [0,pi/2]. f is continuous at [0,pi/2] and has a piecewise-continous deriative.
In each case, determine how should we expand the definition of f to [-pi,pi] so that the Fourier series will be as followed in the picture...


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About 1- I can't figure out how I should expand this function...expanding it to a 3pi period gives me a result that doesn't make sense at all... Also when I've tried to consider the function as a function with 2pi period- The results I've received were unreasonable...

About 2- I'll be glad to receive some guidance in it...

Thanks a lot!
 

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About 1- I can't figure out how I should expand this function...expanding it to a 3pi period gives me a result that doesn't make sense at all... Also when I've tried to consider the function as a function with 2pi period- The results I've received were unreasonable...

the function is periodic with period 3pi/2 and not 3pi
 
How come?
 
sorry it is periodic with period 2pi
-pi/2 to pi/2
pi/2 to 3pi/2
completes a full revolution
so 2pi
 
Welll...So guess I had a calculation mistake...
What about the second question?

Thanks a lot!
 
If "as seen in the picture" refers to the attachment, not two crucial points:
"A" is a sum of even functions and so must be the Fourier series for an even function. "B" is a sum of odd functions and so must be the Fourier series for an odd function.
 
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Yep, I know this...But I can't figure out how to make my expansion work with coefficients that are zero for every odd n ...
Hope you'll be able to explain this...

:(
Thanks
 
Try focusing on the interval [itex][0,\pi][/itex] and consider the symmetry of [itex]sin(nx)[/itex] about [itex]x=\pi/2[/itex].
 
It's pretty obvious that in the first one we need to expand the function into an even one... But I really can't figure out how to expand it so that the coefficients of the odd terms will be zero and only the coefficients at the even terms will remain...
I've tried "researching" several functions but I had no success in figuring out the regularity in the functions which their odd coefficients are zero...

I'll be delighted to receive further help on this question...The hint vela gave me didn't help at all...

Thanks a lot
 
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Maybe because I was talking about the second expansion. :) But the same idea works with the first problem. Try plotting cos(nx) for n=0,1,2,3 from x=0 to x=pi. Is there any symmetry to the graphs about the line x=pi/2, and if so, how does it depend on n?
 
  • #11
Well, I'll try to answer:
when n=0, the graph is symmetric about the line x=pi/2,
when n=1, the graph of cos(x) is anty-symmetric about the line x=pi/2,
when n=2, the graph is symmetric about the line...
when n=3, the graph is anty-symmetric about this line...

My assumtion is that when n is even- the graph cos(nx) is symmetric about the line
x=pi/2 and when n is odd- it's anty-symmetric...
Well, so we need to make the graph of f(x) in [pi/2 , pi ] symmetric about the line x=pi/2 and the odd coefficients will be zero? How can we prove it in a formal way?

Thanks a lot for your guidance!
 
  • #12
Look up how you prove that an odd function integrated over [-a,a] is zero. That's the strategy you want to take, I think. Use the same technique to show that the integral from 0 to pi is zero if f(x) has the right symmetry about x=pi/2, from which it should follow the integral from -pi to pi is zero. You'll also need to establish that cos(nx) has the required symmetry about x=pi/2, but that's probably just a trig identity.
 
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Thanks a lot man...Your guidance helped me a lot!
 

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