Expansion of a gas in Airbag System.

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The discussion focuses on modeling the expansion of gas in an airbag system, specifically using Argon in a pressure vessel of 0.5 liters connected to a nylon bag of 50 liters. The user aims to calculate the initial pressure required for the vessel, which is estimated to be 350 bar, and the final pressure of 4 bar before impact. The user attempts to apply the adiabatic expansion formula, P'V'^gamma = P''V''^gamma, but arrives at an unrealistic initial pressure of 8897.6 bar. The discussion highlights the need for accurate modeling techniques and considerations for gas compressibility in rapid expansions.

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  • Understanding of adiabatic processes in thermodynamics
  • Familiarity with gas laws and equations of state
  • Knowledge of pressure vessel design and safety standards
  • Basic principles of fluid dynamics, particularly compressible flow
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  • Research the ideal gas law and its application to compressible gases
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Mechanical engineering students, pressure vessel designers, and professionals involved in safety assessments of airbag systems will benefit from this discussion.

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Hello, this is my first post. First of all, excuse my English, its not my native language :).

Im trying to solve a problem for college (I study mechanical engineering, but posted it here since its a physics problem).
I modelized an airbag system as following: A pressure vessel with a compressed gas inside, directly connected to a nylon bag. I took some data from a real pressure vessel from an used airbag.
It says that it uses Argon, the volume of the vessel is 0,5 liters (or around that). The vessel also says that the gas inside is a 350 bar, but I can't use that as a given, I need that pressure to be a result for the objective of the project, that is calculating the tensions in the vessel and specify a welding procedure. The bag has a volume of 50 liters and the final pressure before the person impacts on it, I take it to be 4 bar.
Now, doing some research I found more data: The expansion of the bag has to be in under 0,080 seconds, and it inflates at say, 300 km/h.

The problem is that I don't know how to begin. I take it to be an adiabatic expansion, because of the short time it takes to expand.
So when I use the formula:

P'V'^gamma = P''V''^gamma, with

P' unknown initial pressure in the vessel, V'=0,5 liters , P''= 4 bar, V'' = 50,5 liters, gamma = 1,67 for argon.
P' = 8897,6 bar !, not even close to the 350 bar it is in reality.

As for the expansion velocity I don't know how to start, since I can't use Bernoullis equation because argon is not uncompressible.

Remember, I can change the variables to some extend, as long as its reasonable, because the problem is not designing an actual airbag but specifying a welding procedure for the pressure vessel.

All help is greatly appreciated :)
 
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