Expectation value of kinetic energy (QM)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expectation value of the kinetic energy in quantum mechanics, specifically for the wave function ##\Psi_c=ce^{-\alpha x^2}##. Participants are analyzing the expression ##\langle \Psi_c ,\frac{ \hat { \vec p } ^2}{2m} \Psi_c \rangle## and its implications.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of integrals related to the expectation value and question the dimensional consistency of the terms involved. There is an exploration of the implications of the results, particularly regarding the sign of the expectation value and the factors associated with the integrals.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on checking the dimensional consistency of the terms and the correct application of the momentum operator. There is an ongoing examination of the calculations, with some participants indicating they have re-evaluated their work and are seeking clarification on the units of the final result.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for the discussion. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the calculations align with quantum mechanical principles and dimensional analysis.

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Homework Statement


In a QM problem I must calculate the expectation value of the kinetic energy, namely ##\langle \Psi _c ,\frac{ \hat { \vec p } ^2}{2m} \Psi _c \rangle##. Where ##\Psi _c=ce^{-\alpha x^2}##.

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##\int _{-\infty}^\infty \exp \{ -a x^2 +bx \} dx = \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{a}}\exp \{ -\frac{b^2}{4a} \}##.

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##\langle \Psi _c ,\frac{ \hat { \vec p } ^2}{2m} \Psi _c \rangle = \int _{-\infty}^\infty c e^{-\alpha x^2} \frac{\hbar ^2}{2m} \frac{d^2}{dx^2}(ce^{-\alpha x^2})dx####=...=-\frac{\hbar ^2}{m}\alpha c^2 \underbrace{\int _{-\infty}^\infty e^{-2\alpha x^2}dx}_{=I}+\frac{2\hbar ^2}{m} \alpha c^2 \underbrace{\int _{\infty}^\infty x^2 e^{-2\alpha x^2}dx}_{=J}##.
After some algebra, I reached that ##I=\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{2\alpha}}## while ##J=\frac{\sqrt \pi}{2^{5/2}\alpha ^{3/2}}##.
From which I reached that ##\langle \Psi _c ,\frac{ \hat { \vec p } ^2}{2m} \Psi _c \rangle = \frac{\hbar ^2 c^2 \pi ^{1/2}}{2^{3/2}m} \left ( \frac{1}{\alpha ^{1/2}} -\alpha ^{1/2} \right )##.
But I'm having a hard time to swallow the fact that this number is negative if alpha is greater than 1. What do you think? I made some mistake somewhere?! Right?
 
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fluidistic said:
##\frac{\hbar ^2 c^2 \pi ^{1/2}}{2^{3/2}m} \left ( \frac{1}{\alpha ^{1/2}} -\alpha ^{1/2} \right )##.

Note that the two terms inside the parentheses are inconsistent with dimensions. Check to make sure you got the correct number of factors of ##\alpha## in front of the J integral.

EDIT: Also, don't forget that the momentum operator has a factor of ##i##.
 
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TSny said:
Note that the two terms inside the parentheses are inconsistent with dimensions. Check to make sure you got the correct number of factors of ##\alpha## in front of the J integral.

EDIT: Also, don't forget that the momentum operator has a factor of ##i##.

I see. I've just checked out my 2 integrals with Wolfram Alpha and I didn't make any mistake there. So indeed, it should be in the factor(s) outside the integral(s).

##\hat {\vec p}^2=-\hbar ^2 \frac{d^2}{dx^2}##. So already I'm off a sign. I forgot the minus sign in my calculations. I'll recheck the rest and post tomorrow (too late here).
Thank you very much so far.
 
I've redone the whole algebra but the 2 integrals and I reached that the factor in front of I is ##2c^2\hbar ^2 \alpha## and the one in front of J is ##-4c^2 \hbar ^2 \alpha ^2## which makes the result for the expectation value of the momentum: ##c^2\hbar ^2 \sqrt {\frac{\pi \alpha }{2}}## which is always positive. However I'm not sure the units make sense.
If I'm not wrong, the units of c^2 is density of probability, i.e. 1/m (1 over meter). The units of alpha are 1/m^2 because the exponent must be adimensional. And the units of hbar squared are (J*s)^2, joule per second squared. So I get that the units of expectation of the momentum are J^2s^2/m^2 instead of J.Nevermind I forgot to divide all my algebra by 2m (2 masses). By doing so I get a result for the expectation value of ##\frac{c^2\hbar^2 \sqrt{\pi \alpha }}{2^{3/2}m}##. The units are joule, a unit of energy which is a good sign.
 
I think that's the right answer.
 

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