Expected value of two uniformly distributed random variables

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The discussion revolves around finding the expected value of the minimum of two uniformly distributed random variables, \(X_1\) and \(X_2\), both defined on the interval \((0,1)\). Participants explore the properties of the minimum function and its implications for calculating expected values.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the minimum of the two variables and their cumulative distribution functions. There is an exploration of how to express the cumulative probability function for the minimum and the use of integration to find the expected value.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to derive the cumulative distribution function for the minimum of the two random variables. Others are questioning the correctness of their approaches and calculations, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

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There is mention of the survival function and its relationship to the cumulative distribution function, with participants clarifying definitions and ensuring they understand the terms being used in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement
##X_1## and## X_2## are uniformly distributed with parameters ##(0,1)##
then:
##E[min {X_1,X_2}]=##
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##X_1## and## X_2## are uniformly distributed random variables with parameters ##(0,1)##
then:
##E \left[ min \left\{ X_1 , X_2 \right\} \right] = ##

what should I do with that min?
 
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If ##Z = \text{min}(X_1, X_2)##, then ##Z > z## iff both ##X_1## and ##X_2## are greater than ##z##. It follows that$$P(Z > z) = P(X_1 > z)P(X_2 > z)$$You can use this to find the cumulative probability function ##F_Z(z) = P(Z<z)## in terms of ##F_{X_1}(z)## and ##F_{X_2}(z)##, the last two of which are known since we're given that ##X_1## and ##X_2## are uniformly distributed in the interval ##[0, 1]##.
 
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It should be something like this?
##f_{x_{1}} \left(z\right) = \frac 1 {b-a}##
##f_{x_{2}} \left(z\right) = \frac 1 {b-a}##
##F_{x_{1}} \left(z\right) = \frac {z-a} {b-a}##
##F_{x_{1}} \left(z\right) = \frac {z-a} {b-a}##

but, being ##a=0## and ##b=1##

##F_{x_{1}} \left(z\right) = z ##
##F_{x_{1}} \left(z\right) = z ##
so
##F_{x_{1}} \left(z\right)*F_{x_{1}} \left(z\right)=z^2##

being by definition

##E \left[x\right] = \int_a^b \left(1-F_x\left(z\right)\right) \, dz##

so i'll have to integrate

##\int_0^1 \left(1-z^2 \right ) \, dz ## is it correct?
 
Your ##F_{X_1}(z) = z## and ##F_{X_2}(z) = z## are correct, but the rest is not. Start with$$\begin{align*}P(Z > z) &= P(X_1 > z)P(X_2 > z) \\ \\ 1-F_Z(z) &= (1-F_{X_1}(z)) (1-F_{X_2}(z)) = 1 - F_{X_1}(z) - F_{X_2}(z) + F_{X_1}(z)F_{X_2}(z) \\ \\ F_Z(z) &= F_{X_1}(z) + F_{X_2}(z) - F_{X_1}(z)F_{X_2}(z) = 2z - z^2 \end{align*}$$and this last expression you might notice is a statement of the inclusion-exclusion principle.

Now you have the cumulative function ##F_Z(z)##, you can find ##\mathbb{E}(Z)## either by integrating ##1 - F_Z(z)##, which is the way you suggested, or by finding ##f_Z(z) = \frac{dF_Z(z)}{dz}## and integrating ##z f_Z(z)##.
 
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ok so the thinking is :
being ##X_1>z## and ##X_2>z##
for each of them I consider the Survival Function ##\overline{F_{x}}##, that is
##\overline{F_{x_1}}=1-F_{x_1}\left(z\right)= 1-z ## same for the other ##\overline{F_{x_2}}=1-F_{x_2}\left(z\right)= 1-z ##
and
##\overline{F_{x_{1}} \left(z\right)}*\overline{F_{x_{1}} \left(z\right)}=\left(1-z\right)*\left(1-z\right)= \left(1-z\right)^2= z^2-2z+1##

and integrate as
##\int_0^1 \left(z^2-2z+1 \right ) \, dz ##
 
I haven't come across the term 'survival function', but from how you use it I'll just assume it's 1 minus the cumulative probability. Then yes,$$\overline{F_{Z}}(z) = \overline{F_{X_1}}(z) \overline{F_{X_2}}(z) = (1-z)^2$$which you can just integrate up like$$\mathbb{E}(Z) = \int_0^1 \overline{F_{Z}}(z) dz$$
 
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