Explaining Temperature Increase with Antenna and Tissue

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of temperature increase in biological tissue when exposed to radio frequencies emitted by an antenna. Participants explore various explanations for the observed temperature changes at different frequencies, considering factors such as power output, absorption rates, and external influences.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the same power output from the antenna could explain the consistent temperature increase.
  • Others suggest that the absorption characteristics of the biological tissue might differ at various frequencies, impacting temperature changes.
  • A participant raises the possibility that an electric space heater under the tissue could be the source of the temperature increase, independent of the radio waves.
  • Another viewpoint introduces the idea that the biological tissue might be self-generating thermal energy due to its living or decomposing state.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the assumptions made, particularly regarding the absorption rates and the need for control samples in the experiment.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the scenario being discussed, questioning the validity of the imagined conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the explanations for the temperature increase, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached on the underlying causes.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) and the need for control samples to validate claims about temperature changes. There are also unresolved questions about the assumptions made regarding the experimental setup.

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Hi;

Let's imagine that I have an antenna and a biological tissue.
The antenna emits the frequency of 1e7 Hz and I have a temperature increase x.
When the antenna emits the frequency of 3e7 and 6e7 Hz the temperature increase is the same.
How can I explain?
 
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Several possible explanations:
1. Same power output.
2. Same sbsorption.
3. The temperature increase was due to the electric space heater placed under the biological tissue and had nothing to do with the radio waves.
 
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russ_watters said:
Several possible explanations:
1. Same power output.
2. Same sbsorption.
3. The temperature increase was due to the electric space heater placed under the biological tissue and had nothing to do with the radio waves.

The power output of the antenna is the same, but the absortion of the tissue is different, and there is no way that the temperature increase can only be related to tissue.
Anyway, thaanks!
 
SHCampos said:
...the absortion of the tissue is different...
How can you be sure of this?
 
russ_watters said:
3. The temperature increase was due to the electric space heater placed under the biological tissue and had nothing to do with the radio waves.
4. The biological tissue is living (or decomposing) and self-generating thermal energy.

Is there a control sample that is not irradiated?
 
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SHCampos said:
Hi;

Let's imagine that I have an antenna and a biological tissue.
The antenna emits the frequency of 1e7 Hz and I have a temperature increase x.
When the antenna emits the frequency of 3e7 and 6e7 Hz the temperature increase is the same.
How can I explain?

This is silly. You’re asking us to explain something you imagined! Imagine that!

I imagine no temperature change. My imagination is as valid as yours.

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
I imagine no temperature change.
My imaginary space heater disagrees. ?:)
 
russ_watters said:
How can you be sure of this?
Because the SAR (Specific Absorption Rate) is differente
 
jbriggs444 said:
4. The biological tissue is living (or decomposing) and self-generating thermal energy.

Is there a control sample that is not irradiated?
This makes a lot of sense
Thank you
 

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