Explaining Transistor Operation in a Signal Cycle

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the operation of transistors within a signal cycle, particularly in a complementary configuration. Participants explore the behavior of the transistors during positive and negative cycles of an input signal, addressing concepts related to quiescent current and loadlines.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the operation of both transistors during the positive and negative cycles of the input signal, noting that both transistors have quiescent current when no signal is present.
  • Another participant points out a potential mistake in the circuit regarding the supply rail and suggests that the load should be connected differently if it were a speaker.
  • It is proposed that each transistor acts as an emitter follower, alternating power to the load with opposite polarity, and that quiescent current only flows when there is no signal.
  • A participant questions whether the quiescent voltage for the first transistor could be Vcc/2 and for the second transistor -Vcc/2, suggesting that both transistors are active during the signal application.
  • Another participant counters this by explaining that each transistor operates for slightly more than half of an input cycle, indicating that they alternate rather than both being active simultaneously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the operation of the transistors during the signal cycles, with no consensus reached on the specifics of quiescent current and voltage levels. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the proposed configurations and behaviors.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about circuit configuration and the nature of the load are not fully explored, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of how transistors operate in a Class B configuration.

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Would someone be kind enough to explain what happens to the operation of both transistors in both the positive cycle and the negative cycle of the input signal please? I'm having a hard time understanding how this works exactly.

What I know is that with no input signal, both transistors have a quiescent current going through them. Since they're complementary they will have the same voltage drop across them and in between them (i.e. the point where RL is connected) will be at Vcc/2. Now, once the input signal is applied, the positive cycle is supposed to be applied across TR1. TR2 would have a base voltage greater than the collector voltage and therefore it will go into cutoff.

When on the other hand there's the negative cycle, TR1 goes into cutoff which is equivalent to an open circuit. How will TR2 maintain the quiscent current given that now there's an open circuit instead of TR1?
 

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There is a mistake in that circuit. The bottom supply rail would have to be negative, not earthed, if you have the load connected like that.
If it was a speaker and with a single supply, there would be a large electrolytic capacitor in series with the load.

Each transistor acts as an emitter follower with the load alternately getting power from the two transistors but at opposite polarity.
It doesn't matter that the non operating transistor is cut off while the operating one sends a lot of current into the load resistor.

When there is a signal, neither transistor gets quiescent current. This is just a small current that flows when there is no signal.
 
if we were to consider the loadlines of both transistors.. would it be correct to say that the quiescent voltage of the first one is Vcc/2 and that of TR2 to be -Vcc/2 for all values of collector current?

that would mean that the signal is applied to both transistor. however the first one clips the negative cycle while the other one clips the positive cycle and my problem would be solved ^^
 
No, unfortunately not.

Each transistor turns on for slightly more than half of an input cycle, but each on alternate half cycles. That is what Class B means.
 

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