Max Input Signal: 0.3V for 1.5mA Collector Current

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between input signal voltage and collector current in a transistor circuit, specifically focusing on a scenario where the maximum input signal is 0.3V for a collector current of 1.5mA. Participants are examining the implications of biasing and the behavior of the transistor in the active region.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the necessary base current for maintaining active region operation and question the relationship between input signal voltage and collector current. There is a discussion about the significance of the 1V change in base-emitter voltage and its implications for small signal analysis.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the correctness of calculations and interpretations of the problem statement. Some participants suggest that the answer may involve peak or RMS values, indicating a divergence in understanding the requirements of the problem.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the input signal specification and the assumptions about the base-emitter voltage in small signal conditions. Participants are also considering the implications of the transistor's beta value in their reasoning.

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Now, the input circuit is also biased as the transistor to work in the active region and without the biasing of the input circuit , the input circuit may get reversed biased during the negative half cycle of the signal voltage. Due to this bias, there should be some base current say## I_{bB}##.The minimum value of ##I_{bB}## should be such that (taking the maximum current due to the signal voltage in positive half cycle as ##I_{signal}## ) ##I_{signal} + I_{bB} = 30~μA## and in the negative half cycle ##-I_{signal} + I_{bB} = 0## .
This gives ##I_{bB} = I_{signal} = 15μA##
Similarly, the collector current due to the signal voltage alone is 1.5 mA.

Now, it is given that 1V change in base voltage,i.e. 1V of signal voltage gives 5 mA of collector current.
So, for giving 1.5 mA of collector current, the signal voltage should be ##\frac{1.5} 5 = 0.3~V##.
Is this correct?
Why does the question say that ##V_{BE}## gets changed by 1V.
Isn't ##V_{BE}## always 0.7V for sillicon transistor?

Is it necessary that I shoud specify input signal into voltage, not current?
 
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Pushoam said:
Why does the question say that VBEVBEV_{BE} gets changed by 1V.
Isn't VBEVBEV_{BE} always 0.7V for sillicon transistor?
No, not in small signal analysis. In this case,
a linear approximation of the exponential diode equation is used, which gives id=kVd.
(This approximation holds as long as the signal is small.)
 
Pushoam said:
So, for giving 1.5 mA of collector current, the signal voltage should be 1.55=0.3 V1.55=0.3 V\frac{1.5} 5 = 0.3~V.
Is this correct?
What about this?
My book says that the answer is 0.6V.
 
I think they meant the peak input voltage. So the answer makes no sense since 0.6V < 1V knee.
And if they meant rms input voltage that = √2(0.6) = 0.85V which is still below the knee.

So assuming the former case I think they meant the answer to be 1.6V (or 0.6V above the knee) since that would give a dc collector current of (1.6 - 1.0) * 5mA/V = 12V/4K = 3mA.
Why do you think you were given beta BTW?
 
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