Explanation of the discrete fourier transform

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the discrete Fourier transform (DFT) and its application in representing images in frequency space. Participants explore the mathematical formulation of the DFT and seek to understand how it operates on individual pixels in an image, particularly in non-mathematical terms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how the Fourier transform processes each pixel in an image and seeks a non-mathematical explanation of the fast and discrete Fourier transform.
  • Another participant provides links to resources that contain non-mathematical descriptions of the Fourier transform.
  • A participant attempts to interpret the mathematical function of the DFT and asks for clarification on what the "corresponding base function" is in the context of the Fourier transform.
  • One participant explains that the term "exp(-j*2*pi*(u*x+v*y)/N)" represents a plane wave, which relates to the sinusoidal basis functions used in the DFT.
  • A participant reflects on the practical application of the function, questioning what specific values would be input into the function for calculating the Fourier component at each pixel location, while acknowledging the use of software for actual calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the interpretation of the DFT function or the specific base functions involved. There is ongoing exploration and clarification of concepts without definitive conclusions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the mathematical terms and their implications, indicating a need for clearer definitions and explanations of the components of the DFT.

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Hi all,

I'm a complete novice when it comes to describing images in frequency space and i understand that it is a way of representing images as being composed of a series of sinusoids. So a horizontal striped pattern with a single spatial frequency would have a magnitude image in frequency space with 3 non zero points, the origin the two mirrored points on either side at a distance from the centre depending on the spatial frequency. However in terms of what a Fourier transform actually does to each pixel in the image can anyone explain that. So you run each pixel through a mathematical formula can anyone explain the fast and discrete Fourier transform equations in non-mathematical terms? I haven't really been able to find this online. If you were trying to explain a Fourier transform to someone who knew nothing about imaging or optics even to say the image is decomposed into a series of sinusoids could be a bit baffling..

Thanks for your help,

Matt
 
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Hi Andy,

Yes thanks for those all contain very good non-mathematical descriptions. I was trying to interpret the function though so that i could definitively say what calculation is performed on each pixel in the spatial image to yield the Fourier pixel.

F(u,v) = SUM{ f(x,y)*exp(-j*2*pi*(u*x+v*y)/N) }

One of the sites says the function can be interpreted as "the value of each point F(k,l) or pixel in the Fourier image is obtained by multiplying the spatial image with the corresponding base function and summing the result"

But what is the corresponding base function exactly?

Thanks
 
Are you confused by "exp(-j*2*pi*(u*x+v*y)/N)"? That's just a plane wave- the sinusoid basis states.
 
I was just thinking if I was going to take an image and use the function to calculate the Fourier component at each pixel location what numbers would i be plugging into the function. I'm sure that's something you wouldn't do as you can use software to calculate it but its just for my own understanding of what each term in the function means. I'm happy with the qualitative explanations and i can't imagine people will question me about the function itself.

Thanks for the response.
 

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