Exploring Mass-Energy Equivalence: Impact of Heating on Mass Increase

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of mass-energy equivalence and its implications when heating a body, specifically whether heating results in an increase in mass. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications related to mass in the context of relativistic physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if heating a body leads to an increase in mass due to mass-energy equivalence.
  • Another participant affirms this idea but notes that the effect is very small, referencing the equation E=mc^2.
  • A further contribution suggests that mass is not solely dependent on the quantity of matter in an object.
  • One participant challenges the definition of "quantity of matter," proposing that it serves as a non-relativistic heuristic for understanding mass, while introducing a relativistic definition involving energy and momentum.
  • A participant shares a link to an article on invariant mass, cautioning that some content may be advanced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of mass in relation to heating, with no consensus reached on the broader implications of mass-energy equivalence.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the definitions of mass and the implications of relativistic versus non-relativistic perspectives, as well as the dependence of energy and momentum on the frame of reference.

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Does the mass-energy equivalence mean that if we heat a body then its mass will increase?
 
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I should add it's a very small effect. E=mc^2 so m=E/c^2 and c is big.
 
So this means that the mass is not only dependent on the quantity of matter in that object, right?
 
Well, I think it's hard to strictly and generally define what "quantity of matter" is. I would say that is a good non-relativistic heuristic about what mass is. In relativistic physics mass is defined by m=\frac{1}{c^2}\sqrt{E^2-p^2c^2}
E and p are of course frame-dependent, but it turns out that m is not, so it is a good and non-problematic generalisation of Newtonian mass. Contrary to what is known as "relativisitc mass"...
 

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