Exploring the Possibilities of Entanglement Communication in Sci-Fi Story

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using quantum entanglement for real-time communication between Earth and a distant planet, termed 'entanglement com.' Current physics dictates that information cannot be transmitted faster than light, and entanglement does not facilitate this; a classical channel is still required for communication. Participants clarify that while entangled particles can influence each other, any observable state change does not allow for instantaneous information transfer. The concept of a 'classical channel' is explained as traditional means of communication, such as the internet or phone lines. Ultimately, entanglement cannot be used to derive continuous information from one particle to another without losing the entangled state.
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I am writing a sci-fi story that contains an 'entanglement com', a point-to-point connection between Earth and some distant planet, allowing for real-time communication.

I know absolutely nothing about physics, but I know there is a problem with observing a qbit, the other bits will realign themselves to become "consistent with the observation" - don't remember where I read the quoted text,
probably some computer magazine back in the 20th century.

So, my question is: How would the entanglement com work, if at all?
 
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It does not work at all. According to the current laws of physics, it is impossible to transmit any information faster than the speed of light. Entanglement does not help in any way, you would still need a classical channel to transmit information.
 
What are quantum computers about? I thought they were about getting information to move through entanglement?
 
They still have to move physical objects, or send electromagnetic signals from A to B, or use some similar method to transmit information.
 
So, what exactly is quantum computing, if it isn't trying to get entanglement to work
 
Tenshou said:
So, what exactly is quantum computing, if it isn't trying to get entanglement to work

Google is your friend.
 
mfb said:
It does not work at all. According to the current laws of physics, it is impossible to transmit any information faster than the speed of light. Entanglement does not help in any way, you would still need a classical channel to transmit information.

Thank you for answering.
Unfortunately, one fool can ask more questions than ten wise men can answer:

"According to the current laws of physics, it is impossible to transmit any information faster than the speed of light."
Of course. I may be a fool, but not that much of a fool :)

"Entanglement does not help in any way, you would still need a classical channel to transmit information."

From this I can conclude that if two particles are entangled, and the state of one is changed, either

a) The state of the other will not change instantaneously, but rather, the state change will propagate through space at the speed of light

or

b) The state change may be instantaneous, but will not be observable

or

c) There is a limit to the distance between the two particles

or

d) Something else that I didn't think about

I am afraid I have no idea what a 'classical channel' is.
 
The state change is not observable (as in "see, now it changed!"). You can observe the state afterwards, but you cannot know the state it had before, otherwise there is no entanglement.
"instantaneous" is not the right expression - it depends on the reference frame, and the time-order of the observations in your reference frame does not matter.

I am afraid I have no idea what a 'classical channel' is.
The current internet, a phone line, mail, avian carriers, ... everything you can use to transfer regular bits.
 
Thanks again.

Would I be right to assume that if two particles were entangled and the state of one changed, and although the state change is not observable, I could read the changed state from the other particle, say, one nanosecond later?
 
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Yes.
You can even read it one nanosecond earlier ;).
 
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mfb said:
Yes.
You can even read it one nanosecond earlier ;).

Then, if our particle, let's name it p1 for short had its state changed again, the other particle, let's call it p2, would reflect the change?

The state of p1 could be derived from the state of p2?

If it works once, it works twice, right?

If the state, let's call it S, changed every nanosecond to S(i), then the state of the other, let's call it T would change into a derived state T(i) every nanosecond and every T(i) could be recorded locally every nanosecond?
 
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The state of p1 could be derived from the state of p2?
That is the key point, and it can be done only once. As soon as this can be done, the entanglement is lost, and further modifications will not influence the measurements on the other particle.
 
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mfb said:
That is the key point, and it can be done only once. As soon as this can be done, the entanglement is lost, and further modifications will not influence the measurements on the other particle.

Thanks! I get the impression that I understand it now, I know it will pass!

In any case, I ran out of questions :)
 

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