Exponential Equations: Solving for Unknown Variables

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The discussion revolves around solving exponential equations, specifically focusing on the equation 2^{2x}-3\times2^{x+2}+32=0 and another involving (27\cdot3^x)^x=27^x\cdot3^{\frac{1}{x}}. Participants are exploring various methods and substitutions to approach these problems.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rewriting the original equation and consider substitutions to simplify the problem. There are attempts to clarify the manipulation of exponents and the implications of different approaches.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into rewriting the equations and suggested substitutions. There is ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the equations, particularly regarding the manipulation of exponents and the validity of certain steps taken in the problem-solving process.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings related to exponent rules and the implications of their manipulations. There is a recognition of confusion regarding the transformation of terms and the nature of the solutions being sought.

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Homework Statement



2^{2x}-3\times2^{x+2}+32=0


The Attempt at a Solution



i have no clue as to how to solve this...if someone has a tutorial on another website of something on these type of questions...that would be helpful...can someone provide some insight as to how approach this problem?
 
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u can re-write as:

0 = (2^x)^2 - 3* 2^X * 2^2 + 32
 
(2^x)^2-12\cdot(2^x)+32=0

How about now? Remember that, a^{x+y}=a^xa^y Make a "substitution" if necessary.
 
thanks!

i see how it is done...i will try to do a number of these...will post if need more help.

many thanks rocophysics and shawshank
 
(27\cdot3^x)^x=27^x\cdot3^\frac{1}{x}

when i solve it...i end up with the answers x=0 or x=-1...the answer sheet says its just x=0...i did it multiple times...keep getting the same answer...which is right?
 
u=2^x

u^2-12u+32=0

(u-4)(u-8)=0

2^x=4 \ \ \ 2^x=8

x=\frac{\ln 4}{\ln 2} \ \ \ x=\frac{\ln 8}{\ln 2}

Lol, omg! New problem, sorry. I was like wtf ... I'm not even getting 0 :p
 
(27\cdot3^x)^x=27^x\cdot3^\frac{1}{x}

Simplifies to ...

3^{x^2}=3^{\frac 1 x}

I'm getting 1 as my only answer.
 
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ohh crap...my bad...the answer i was looking at was for the pervious one.

here is how i did it...tell me where i went wrong:

(3^3\cdot3^x)^x=3^3x\cdot3^(-x)

(3^(x+3))^x=3^(2x)

(3^(x^2+3x)=3^(2x)

x^2+3x=2x

x^2+x=0

x(x+1)=0

x=0 or x=-1

so i did something really wrong...did i violate a rule??
 
27^x\cdot3^{x^2}=27^x\cdot3^{\frac 1 x}

3^{x^2}=3^{\frac 1 x}

x^2=\frac 1 x

x^3-1=0
 
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ok...so i can't make the exponent 1/x into -x??
 
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projection said:
ok...so i can't make the exponent 1/x into -x??
You can, but why do it? Also, 27^x cancels nicely so it's just a cubic function with one real solution.
 
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projection said:
ok...so i can't make the exponent 1/x into -x??

rocophysics said:
You can, but why do it? Also, 27^x cancels nicely so it's just a cubic function with one real solution.

No, he cannot do it. 1/x cannot be change to -x.

You seem to be confusing between the two:

\frac{1}{a} = a ^ {-1}, this is a fine manipulation. :)

However, \left( a ^ {\frac{1}{x}} = \sqrt[x]{a} \right) \neq \left( a ^ {-x} = \frac{1}{a ^ x} \right) The two are completely different.

You are wrong at the very first step.. Now, let's re-do it using ricophysics' way. :)
 
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Oh! Oops, I did not mean to mislead. I accidently read an exponent of -x, rather than a change to -x. Thanks VietDao! :-]
 

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