Expressing Biot-Savart Law using diagram

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The discussion revolves around expressing the Biot-Savart Law in terms of specific variables related to a rail-gun problem, including R, L(t), l, and φ. Participants are exploring the integration of the law to determine the magnetic field at a point due to current-carrying wires.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using the law of cosines and sines to express distances and angles in the context of the Biot-Savart Law. There are questions about the current's behavior in the wire and the missing distance information between wires. One participant suggests a change of variable to simplify the integration process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and clarifying their understanding of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding integration and variable substitution, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves a rail-gun setup with specific dimensions provided, such as the distance between rails and the length of the rails. There is an acknowledgment of the multi-step nature of the problem and the need for further clarification on certain assumptions.

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Homework Statement


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Express:
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in terms of R, L(t), l, and φ


Homework Equations


Law of Sines and Cosines


The Attempt at a Solution


I have used:
c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab*cosφ which resulted in
r^2=R^2+(L(t)-l)^2-2*R*(L(t)-l)*cosφ

and used the law of sines to get
R*sinφ=r*sinθ
r=(R*sinφ)/sinθ

I'm struggling figuring out where to go from here. I know I'm looking to replace the dl x r portion of the Biot-Savart law. If anyone could help prod me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. Thanks
 
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It appears that you are supposed to integrate the Biot-Savart law to get B at point P, thought it does not say this explicitly.

You'll need to express the magnitude of dl x r, using the usual rule for cross-product magnitudes.

Two things are not clear to me:

Is the current only in the straight portions of wire? It mysteriously "disappears and reappears" at the beginning and end of the semicircle section?

and,

The distance between the two straight wires is not given (or equivalently, the diameter of the semicircle). It seems that B should depend on that.
 
Sorry, should of mentioned that it is a rail-gun problem and the distance separating the rails is 10cm and each rail is 2 meters long. Thus, current will be running through the curved portion of the wire since it represents the armature. It's a multi-step problem though so I was thinking that this question was only asking for the general formula.
 
I believe I figured out my problem. I was going about things in the entirely wrong direction.
I came up with:
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I solved this by simply solving for r using the law of cosines and plugging it into the r3 portion of Biot's Law then to solve for dl x r I used the law of sines. And just made sure to get everything in terms of only R, L(t), l, and ϕ.
Anyone care to verify that this is correct?
 
Looks good, but you don't really need the absolute-value sign on R do you?
 
I was using it to express magnitude but I don't think it's necessary. Also, I'm supposed to integrate this with respect to dl over the length of the rail to find the magnetic field at point P by the one rail. Not exactly sure what the first step into getting this one rolling would be. I know the length of the rail would be L(t) but not much more.
 
Probably start with a change-of-variable like x=(L-l) to make the expression look simpler. Then I would look in a table of integrals.
 

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