Expressing defined integral as composition of differentiable functions

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The discussion centers on expressing the integral function f(t) = ∫(t to t²) (1/(s + sin(s))) ds as a composition of two differentiable functions, g: ℝ → ℝ² and h: ℝ² → ℝ. One proposed solution is g(t) = (t, t²) and h(x, y) = ∫(x to y) (1/(s + sin(s))) ds. Participants express confusion about the necessity of using functions of multiple variables and how to apply the chain rule for differentiation. The consensus is that f(t) can be represented as h(g(t)), and the chain rule should be applied correctly to find the derivative of f. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the composition of functions in calculus.
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Homework Statement


Let ##f(t)=\int_{t}^{t^2} \frac{1}{s+\sin{s}}ds,t>1.##Express ##f## as a composition of two differentiable functions ##g:ℝ→ℝ^2## and ##h:ℝ^2→ℝ##. In addition, find the derivative of ##f## (using the composition).

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The Attempt at a Solution


Honestly, I have no proper idea how to approach this problem. I know what is being asked, but how to find such functions ##g## and ##f##? Let g(t)=(t,sint) and h(x,y)=1/(x+y)? A nudge in the right direction will be appreciated.
 
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lep11 said:

Homework Statement


Let ##f(t)=\int_{t}^{t^2} \frac{1}{s+\sin{s}}ds,t>1.##Express ##f## as a composition of two differentiable functions ##g:ℝ→ℝ^2## and ##h:ℝ^2→ℝ##. In addition, find the derivative of ##f## (using the composition).

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Honestly, I have no proper idea how to approach this problem. I know what is being asked, but how to find such functions ##g## and ##f##? Let g(t)=(t,sint) and h(x,y)=1/(x+y)? A nudge in the right direction will be appreciated.
What about ##g(t) = (t, t^2)##?

PS I think I can see what is intended, but if the aim is to find ##f'## I don't see why you need to consider functions of more than one variable.
 
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PeroK said:
What about ##g(t) = (t, t^2)##?

PS I think I can see what is intended, but if the aim is to find ##f'## I don't see why you need to consider functions of more than one variable.
The problem actually consists of two parts (a and b) and the part b is to find the derivative of ##f## using the composition. ##g(t)=(t,t^2)##, well, okay, but how to find such ##h##? ##h(x,y)=\int_{x}^{y} \frac{1}{s+\sin{s}}ds##? And in part b in thinking maybe it's the reversal chain rule? It's a bit confusing.
 
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lep11 said:
The problem actually consists of two parts (a and b) and the part b is to find the derivative of ##f## using the composition. ##g(t)=(t,t^2)##, well, okay, but how to find such ##h##? ##h(x,y)=\int_{x}^{y} \frac{1}{s+\sin{s}}ds##?

Yes, ##f(t) = h(g(t))## with those definitions.

For your information, I would have split ##f## as follows:

##f(t) = f_1(t^2) - f_1(t)##

Where ##f_1(t) = \int_0^{t} k(s)ds##

Those are all differentiable functions of a single variable.
 
PeroK said:
Yes, ##f(t) = h(g(t))## with those definitions.
Are there other possibilities?
 
lep11 said:
Are there other possibilities?

There may be, but I think that is the one that the question setter intended.
 
By the chain rule ##\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{t}}(t)=\frac{\partial{h(g(t))}}{\partial{t}}=\frac{\partial{h}}{\partial{g_1}}\frac{\partial{g_1}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{\partial{h}}{\partial{g_2}}\frac{\partial{g_2}}{\partial{t}}##

How to apply it in this case?
 
lep11 said:
By the chain rule ##\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{t}}(t)=\frac{\partial{h(g(t))}}{\partial{t}}=\frac{\partial{h}}{\partial{g_1}}\frac{\partial{g_1}}{\partial{t}}+\frac{\partial{h}}{\partial{g_2}}\frac{\partial{g_2}}{\partial{t}}##

How to apply it in this case?

First, ##f## is a function of ##t##, so you can't have a partial derivative.

You need to write:

##f(t) = g(x(t), y(t)) = g(t, t^2)##

And, apply the chain rule to that.
 

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