Expressing the limit of a sum as a definite integral

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The limit of the sum can be expressed as a definite integral defined by the equation ∫(from 1 to 10) [x - 4ln(x)] dx. The correct interpretation of the limit involves setting the upper bound of the summation to n, which allows the expression to converge. The definition of the definite integral is utilized, where the limit of the Riemann sum approaches the integral as n approaches infinity. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly identifying the bounds in order to evaluate the integral properly.

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Homework Statement


Express the following as a definite integral:

Express the attached limit as an integral.


The Attempt at a Solution


I have gotten as far as every part of the answer except the upper bound. the answer is:
10
∫(from 1 to 10) [x-4lnx]dx
1

since the definition of the definite integral is:
a
∫f(x)dx = lim Ʃ Δxif(x)
b________Δ→∞ i=1

i set Δxi = 9/n since that approaches zero. f(x) would be left to 1+9i/n - 4ln(1+9i/n)
so i set x = 1+9i/n.
since n approaches ∞ and the upper bound of the sum is ∞, i plugged ∞ in for i and n.
thats where I have trouble. ∞/∞ is undefined. when i plug 1 in i end up with 1 so that is the lower bound.
 

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I don't think your infinite sum converges for any i - you sum over i which grows like i^2 and the log-expression does not reduce this enough (just grows with i*log(i)).
If the sum is supposed to run from i=1 to n, this makes sense, and you get the maximal x-value simply by setting i=n.
 
michaelkorn said:

Homework Statement


Express the following as a definite integral:

Express the attached limit as an integral.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have gotten as far as every part of the answer except the upper bound. the answer is:
10
∫(from 1 to 10) [x-4lnx]dx
1

since the definition of the definite integral is:
a
∫f(x)dx = lim Ʃ Δxif(x)
b________Δ→∞ i=1

i set Δxi = 9/n since that approaches zero. f(x) would be left to 1+9i/n - 4ln(1+9i/n)
so i set x = 1+9i/n.
since n approaches ∞ and the upper bound of the sum is ∞, i plugged ∞ in for i and n.
thats where I have trouble. ∞/∞ is undefined. when i plug 1 in i end up with 1 so that is the lower bound.

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The Attempt at a Solution



There's a typo in the attached limit expression. The upper limit on the summation should be n. As written it doesn't approach anything. The sum by itself diverges.
 
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