External direct products of cyclic groups

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The discussion revolves around expressing a specific subset of complex numbers, {1, -1, i, -i}, as an external direct product of cyclic groups. Participants are exploring the properties of this group under complex multiplication.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are examining the nature of the group, questioning how it can be represented as an external direct product of cyclic groups despite it being cyclic itself. There is a focus on the generators of the group and the implications of its structure.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants affirming the cyclic nature of the group while others are probing the specific representation as an external direct product. There is no explicit consensus, but the conversation is productive in clarifying the group's characteristics.

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Participants are considering the definitions and properties of cyclic groups and external direct products, as well as the implications of expressing the group in different forms. There is an acknowledgment that the group can be generated by one element, which may influence its representation.

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I'm wondering if anyone can help me with learning how to write groups as an external direct product of cyclic groups.

The example I'm looking at is for the subset {1, -1, i, -i} of complex numbers which is a group under complex multiplication. How do I express it as an external direct product of cyclic groups?
 
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The group you posted IS cyclic.
 
Right. I understand that the subset of complex numbers shown is a group under multiplication, and I know that it itself is cyclic with i and -i both being generators, but I know it isn't expressed as an external direct product of cyclic groups.
 
lostNfound said:
Right. I understand that the subset of complex numbers shown is a group under multiplication, and I know that it itself is cyclic with i and -i both being generators, but I know it isn't expressed as an external direct product of cyclic groups.

It's a product with one factor.
 

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