F(x) is differentiable at x =1, find f(x)

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The discussion revolves around a function \( f \) that is differentiable at \( x = 1 \) and involves the limit condition \( \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(1 + h)}{h} = 5 \). Participants are tasked with finding \( f(1) \) and \( f'(1) \) based on this information.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of differentiability and continuity at \( x = 1 \). There are attempts to manipulate the limit expression to derive relationships between \( f(1) \) and \( f'(1) \). Some participants question the correctness of their reasoning and seek clarification on the steps involved in the limit evaluation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing differing interpretations of the limit and its implications for \( f(1) \) and \( f'(1) \). Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the behavior of the numerator as \( h \) approaches zero, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the limit must exist and are questioning how the differentiability condition constrains the values of \( f(1) \) and \( f'(1) \). There is an acknowledgment of the continuity requirement at \( x = 1 \.

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Homework Statement



suppose a function f is differentiable at x = 1 and

lim[h → 0] [itex]\frac{f(1 + h)}{h}[/itex] = 5

Finf, f(1) AND f'(1)




The Attempt at a Solution



f(x) is differentiable at x = 1

f(x) is continious at x = 1

lim[x→1] f(x)= f(1)

f'(x) = lim[h→0] [itex]\frac{f(1 + h) - f(1)}{h}[/itex]

= 5.lim[h→0]f(1)

= 5.f(1)

= 5lim[x→1]f(x)

Is this correct? I can't see anything else to do.
 
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Darth Frodo said:
f'(x) = lim[h→0] [itex]\frac{f(1 + h) - f(1)}{h}[/itex]

= 5.lim[h→0]f(1)

= 5.f(1)

= 5lim[x→1]f(x)

Is this correct? I can't see anything else to do.

No, that's completely wrong :)

[tex]f'(1) = \lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \frac{f(1+h)-f(1)}{h} = \lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \frac{f(1+h)}{h}-\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \frac{f(1)}{h}[/tex]

You know what the first term is; it's 5. Now you need to constrain f(1) by the fact that f is differentiable at 1.
 
Darth Frodo said:

Homework Statement



suppose a function f is differentiable at x = 1 and

lim[h → 0] [itex]\frac{f(1 + h)}{h}[/itex] = 5
The denominator goes to 0 so in order that the limit of the fraction exist at all, the numerator must be what?

Find, f(1) AND f'(1)
And [itex]f'(1)= \lim_{h\to 0} (f(1+ h)- f(1))/h[/itex]. And now that you know what f(1) is, that limit is precisely what you were given!

The Attempt at a Solution



f(x) is differentiable at x = 1

f(x) is continious at x = 1

lim[x→1] f(x)= f(1)

f'(x) = lim[h→0] [itex]\frac{f(1 + h) - f(1)}{h}[/itex]
Yes, you are correct to here.

= 5.lim[h→0]f(1)
I don't see how this follows from the above. You can break the above into
[itex]\lim_{h\to 0} f(1+h)/h- \lim_{h\to 0} f(1)/h= 5- \lim_{h\to 0} f(1)/h[/itex] provided that last limit exists.

= 5.f(1)

= 5lim[x→1]f(x)

Is this correct? I can't see anything else to do.
No, that's wrong because of what I wrote before.

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Consider
f(x)=a+b(x-1)
then generalize
 

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