Factoring a 3rd order polynomial

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Factoring a 4th order polynomial

Homework Statement



Example:
[itex](jw)^{3}+6(jw)^{2}+5jw+30=0[/itex] can be re-written into [itex]6(5-w^{2})+jw(5-w^{2})[/itex]. The fact that there are two identical [itex](5-w^{2})[/itex] is a desirable outcome. Imaginary number [itex]j=\sqrt{-1}[/itex] becomes -1 when raised to the power of 2.

Homework Equations



The problem is to transform [itex](jw)^{4}+7(jw)^{3}+59(jw)^2+98(jw)+630=0[/itex] in a similar manner.

The Attempt at a Solution



So far I have been unsuccessful.

[itex]w^{4}-7jw^{3}-59w^{2}+98jw+630=0[/itex]

[itex](w^{4}-59w^{2})+7(-jw^{3}+14jw+90)=0[/itex]
 
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rowardHoark said:

Homework Statement



Example:
[itex](jw)^{3}+6(jw)^{2}+5jw+30=0[/itex] can be re-written into [itex]6(5-w^{2})+jw(5-w^{2})[/itex]. The fact that there are two identical [itex](5-w^{2})[/itex] is a disirable outcome. Imaginary number [itex]j=\sqrt{-1}[/itex] becomes -1 when raised to the power of 2.

Homework Equations



The problem is to transform [itex](jw)^{4}+7(jw)^{3}+59(jw)^2+98(jw)+630=0[/itex] in a similar manner.

The Attempt at a Solution



So far I have been unsuccessful.

[itex]w^{4}-7jw^{3}-59w^{2}+98jw+630=0[/itex]

[itex](w^{4}-59w^{2})+7(-jw^{3}+14jw+90)=0[/itex]

Try

[itex](w^4 - 59 w^2 + 630) + jw(14 - w^2)[/itex]

Then divide [itex](w^4 - 59 w^2 + 630)[/itex] by [itex](14 - w^2)[/itex]
 


CEL said:
Try

[itex](w^4 - 59 w^2 + 630) + jw(14 - w^2)[/itex]

Then divide [itex](w^4 - 59 w^2 + 630)[/itex] by [itex](14 - w^2)[/itex]

Thank you, CEL.

The answer is [itex]-(14-w^{2})(w^{2}-45)+7jw(14-w^{2})=0[/itex]

If designing a controller using Ziegler-Nichols second method, would I pick [itex]\omega=\sqrt{14}[/itex] or [itex]\omega=\sqrt{45}[/itex] as my value to calculare [itex]P_{cr}=\frac{2\Pi}{\omega}[/itex]?
 


CEL said:
Try

[itex](w^4 - 59 w^2 + 630) + jw(14 - w^2)[/itex]

Then divide [itex](w^4 - 59 w^2 + 630)[/itex] by [itex](14 - w^2)[/itex]

There's one tiny error here:

[itex](w^4 - 59 w^2 + 630) + jw(14 - w^2)[/itex]

should be:

[itex](w^4 - 59 w^2 + 630) + 7jw(14 - w^2)[/itex]

A good systematic method for problems like this is shown in the attachment.
 

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