Factoring operator and fundamental theorem of algebra

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The discussion revolves around the factorization of differential operators and their relation to the fundamental theorem of algebra. Participants explore the algebraic structures that allow for such factorization, particularly in the context of differential and difference operators, and the necessary axioms for these operators to exhibit polynomial-like behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the algebraic structure required for a general operator F to be factorizable like a polynomial.
  • Another participant notes that the set of differential operators can be viewed as a ring of polynomials in one variable over C, suggesting that this property facilitates factorization.
  • Commutativity of operators is highlighted as a useful property, allowing them to behave similarly to polynomials, although some relations may exist that do not apply to standard polynomials.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how to prove that differential operators form a ring of polynomials, comparing it to proving group properties and asking about necessary conditions for factorization.
  • It is mentioned that if an operator D satisfies no relations, there exists a unique algebra map from the polynomial ring to the algebra containing D, indicating a deeper connection between the two structures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the algebraic structures involved and the necessary conditions for factorization. There is no consensus on the specific axioms or proofs required to establish that differential operators form a ring of polynomials.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of commutativity and the existence of relations among operators, which may affect their behavior and factorization properties. The discussion does not resolve the specific axioms needed for the operator Δ to allow for polynomial factorization.

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I haven't taken any abstract algebra course so I do not know if this is the right section to post this question in.

Anyway, I am learning differential equation right now and my prof. recently showed factorization of differential operator.

For example, let D be the differential operator, he then said that any thing in the form:
[tex](D^n+A_{n-1}D^{n-1}+...+A_1D+A_0I)f[/tex]
where I is the identity can be factorized into:
[tex](D-z_1I)(D-z_2I)...(D-z_nI)f[/tex]
where multiplication means composition of operator

I am curious to know what kind of algebraic structure has this property... and if I have a random operator, let's say F, what axioms does F have to satisfy in order for
[tex]F^n+A_{n-1}F^{n-1}+...+A_1F+A_0I[/tex]
to be factorizable like a polynomial?

more specifically, If I define an operator [tex]\Delta x(n)=x(n+1)-x(n)[/tex]
how can I show (what axioms does Delta have to satisfy) that polynomials in [tex]\Delta[/tex] can be factorized?
(I'm reading a book on differences equation... so I would like to know)
 
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Observe that the set of all such differential operators is nothing more than the ring of polynomials in one variable over C. You can factor polynomials, therefore you can factor such differential operators.
 
commutativity is useful, which is why he stuck to linear combinations of the D operator. those all commute with each other.

then they behave exactly like polynomials in X. almost.

they may also satisfy relations that polynomials do niot, but that means they behave even better.
 
thx for the quick response.

Hurkyl said:
Observe that the set of all such differential operators is nothing more than the ring of polynomials in one variable over C. You can factor polynomials, therefore you can factor such differential operators.

but what do I need to do to show that they are the ring of polynomials?

if I want to prove something is a group, i show a set of elements and a binary operator. then I prove associativity, identity and the inverse axioms... what about proving something is the "ring of polynomials"?

for instance, to prove that factoring works for differential operators, what do I have to show?

Do I have to show D commute with D and Identity and stuffs like:
[tex]DI=ID[/tex]
[tex]D(D+I)=D^2+D[/tex]
[tex]I(D+I)=ID+II=D+I[/tex]

... or something similar?
 
the polynomial ring k[X] has the nice property that given any algebra R over k, and any element D of that algebra, there is a unique k algebra map from k[X] to R sending X to D.

Thus if D satisfies no relations, the map is an isomorphism. on the iother hand if you view D as an operator satisfyijng some equation like D^2+1 = 0, then the ring of poloynomials in D acting on the solutiions of that equation is a quotient of k[X] by the ideal generated by X^2+1.
 

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