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There is magnetic field in B = B ##\hat z## in a region from x=0 to x=l.
There is a metal rectangular wire loop with length l and width w in x- y plane with coordinates of four corners as (0,0),(0,w),(l,0),(l,w). This loop is moved with velocity v=v##\hat x##.
Now according to Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction,
there will be an emf and as a result there will be a current in the loop.
Now,
emf ≡ ξ = ##\frac{-dΦ}{dt} = Bwv##
This ξ is potential difference across which two points?
I think this is the potential difference across that two points which is just going out of the magnetic field region because in a small region around these two points the Φ is changing.
Now, applying Lenz's law,
since here the flux is decreasing, current will flow in a direction which will oppose this change in flux.
To increase the flux, magnetic field due to this current should be in ##\hat z## direction and for this the current should move in the anti - clockwise direction.
Now at time t, the two points which are going out of the magnetic field region is (l-vt,0),(l-vt,w).
The current is going from (l-vt,0) to (l-vt,w). Since the current flows from higher potential to lower potential,the potential at(l-vt,0) is higher than that at (l-vt,w).
Now it is said that to verify the presence of ξ, we need a loop (so that we can check the current.),but ξ exists independently of the presence of the loop. So, even if there is no loop, there will be ξ.
Now, the problem is : this ξ wil be across which two points?
And if there is no loop here, then the flux is not changing.
In the presence of loop, the flux over the area covered by the loop is changing.
From the presence of ξ, it is induced that there is electric field and this electric field is known as induced electric field Ein.
But magnetic field is not changing here. So, what is creating Ein?
Now the relation between V and E is given as
V(b)-V(a) = -∫abE.dl
But the relation between ξ and Ein is given as
##ξ =\oint \vec{ E _{in}}\cdot d \vec l ##
From where do we get this relation? Is it empirical?
Note that ξ is defined only for a circular path and there is absence of negative sign on R.H.S.,too. Can anyone please explain this?
Can we say that ξ is defined only in the presence of a loop?
And so, the following question cannot be answered:
This ξ is potential difference across which two points?
But in general, it is said that Ein exists independently of the presence of loop.
So, if in a region R,I change B, there will be Ein. Will this Ein be
only in this region R or will it exist in the whole space (of course, decreasing in magnitude as the distance from this region increases)?
Now , if in this region ,I place a test charge q stationary for sometime , so that magnetic force acting on it is 0, then this charge will experience a force F = q Ein.
Is this correct?
There is a metal rectangular wire loop with length l and width w in x- y plane with coordinates of four corners as (0,0),(0,w),(l,0),(l,w). This loop is moved with velocity v=v##\hat x##.
Now according to Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction,
there will be an emf and as a result there will be a current in the loop.
Now,
emf ≡ ξ = ##\frac{-dΦ}{dt} = Bwv##
This ξ is potential difference across which two points?
I think this is the potential difference across that two points which is just going out of the magnetic field region because in a small region around these two points the Φ is changing.
Now, applying Lenz's law,
since here the flux is decreasing, current will flow in a direction which will oppose this change in flux.
To increase the flux, magnetic field due to this current should be in ##\hat z## direction and for this the current should move in the anti - clockwise direction.
Now at time t, the two points which are going out of the magnetic field region is (l-vt,0),(l-vt,w).
The current is going from (l-vt,0) to (l-vt,w). Since the current flows from higher potential to lower potential,the potential at(l-vt,0) is higher than that at (l-vt,w).
Now it is said that to verify the presence of ξ, we need a loop (so that we can check the current.),but ξ exists independently of the presence of the loop. So, even if there is no loop, there will be ξ.
Now, the problem is : this ξ wil be across which two points?
And if there is no loop here, then the flux is not changing.
In the presence of loop, the flux over the area covered by the loop is changing.
From the presence of ξ, it is induced that there is electric field and this electric field is known as induced electric field Ein.
But magnetic field is not changing here. So, what is creating Ein?
Now the relation between V and E is given as
V(b)-V(a) = -∫abE.dl
But the relation between ξ and Ein is given as
##ξ =\oint \vec{ E _{in}}\cdot d \vec l ##
From where do we get this relation? Is it empirical?
Note that ξ is defined only for a circular path and there is absence of negative sign on R.H.S.,too. Can anyone please explain this?
Can we say that ξ is defined only in the presence of a loop?
And so, the following question cannot be answered:
This ξ is potential difference across which two points?
But in general, it is said that Ein exists independently of the presence of loop.
So, if in a region R,I change B, there will be Ein. Will this Ein be
only in this region R or will it exist in the whole space (of course, decreasing in magnitude as the distance from this region increases)?
Now , if in this region ,I place a test charge q stationary for sometime , so that magnetic force acting on it is 0, then this charge will experience a force F = q Ein.
Is this correct?
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