Faraday's law of induction and special relativity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the derivation of Faraday's law of induction within the framework of special relativity. Participants explore the challenges of explaining this law in relation to other electromagnetic laws and the consistency of Maxwell's equations with Lorentz transformations. The scope includes theoretical derivations and inquiries about the relationship between classical electromagnetism and relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in explaining Faraday's law of induction using special relativity, noting that most textbooks do not derive it from the inverse square law.
  • Another participant claims to have successfully derived Faraday's law from the inverse square law and special relativity, indicating a different perspective on the issue.
  • A third participant suggests that Jackson's text on Classical Mechanics may provide a helpful tensor form derivation of Maxwell's equations relevant to the discussion.
  • Another participant mentions an interesting derivation that connects the inverse square law, special relativity, and the propagation speed of light, proposing that this leads to a circulation of electrical force related to Faraday's law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants demonstrate differing views on the derivability of Faraday's law within the context of special relativity, with some claiming success in derivation while others express ongoing challenges. No consensus is reached regarding the explanation of Faraday's law in this framework.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in existing textbooks and the need for derivations that connect classical laws with relativistic frameworks. There are also references to specific texts and derivations that may or may not align with the participants' approaches.

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I got a master degree in physics and I still found that this is difficult to expalin Faraday's law of induction within the context of special relativity. Most of the textbooks I found only shows that Maxwell equations are consistent with Lorentz transformation. Those books do not really derived them from inverse square law and special relativity. Although I sucessfully derived the other laws of electromagnetism (that is the Maxwell equations other than the one describing the law of induction) in terms of relativity.
Could someone send me the derivation of Faraday's law or just simply the Faraday's law cannot be explained by special relatvity?
 
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I already sucessfully derived Faraday's law of induction from inverse square law and special relativity. Thank you for anyone paid attention to my question. However, I got another question about 4 vector potential and already posted. Please take some time to look at it and see whether you could help me or not?
 
LHS1 said:
I got a master degree in physics and I still found that this is difficult to expalin Faraday's law of induction within the context of special relativity. Most of the textbooks I found only shows that Maxwell equations are consistent with Lorentz transformation. Those books do not really derived them from inverse square law and special relativity. Although I sucessfully derived the other laws of electromagnetism (that is the Maxwell equations other than the one describing the law of induction) in terms of relativity.
Could someone send me the derivation of Faraday's law or just simply the Faraday's law cannot be explained by special relatvity?
Jackson's text Classical Mechanics takes Maxwell's equations and places them in tensor form. That derivation should be of help to you.

Pete
 
An interesting derivation using the inverse square law, special relativity and a velocity of propagation equal to light can be seen at johnwilliams22dothi5dotcom. Faraday's law can be derived from this, since when the emitting particle accelerates different distances from the particle experience different speeds of the particle (since the speed of light is not infinite). This causes a circulation of electrical force. Is your derivation anyway similar.
 

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