FDQR ( Freshman Dream Quotient Rule)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the Freshman Dream Quotient Rule, with participants exploring the possibility of finding two functions that exemplify this rule. The context involves derivatives and their properties.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find examples of functions that satisfy the Freshman Dream Quotient Rule but expresses uncertainty about the existence of such examples. Some participants suggest using derivative laws and manipulating equations to explore potential functions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering mathematical manipulations and specific function examples. There is a productive exploration of different approaches, with some participants proposing specific functions and discussing their derivatives.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication that the original poster has researched proofs but is struggling to find concrete examples. The discussion includes references to derivative laws and the manipulation of equations, suggesting a focus on mathematical reasoning without definitive conclusions.

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Homework Statement


I have been working with researching and writing a paper on the Freshman Dream Quotient Rule. This rule states
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, and I was wondering if anyone can come up with an example of 2 functions which make this work.

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I have looked at proofs and everything of this, but have not been able to come up with an example for my paper. For all I know, there may not be an example.
 
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You can use the laws of derivatives to write:

(\frac{f}{g})' = \frac{f'}{g} - \frac{f g'}{g^2}

So you're trying to solve:
\frac{f'}{g} - \frac{f g'}{g^2} = \frac{f'}{g'}

or multiplying through by g^2 g':

f' g g' - f (g')^2 = f' g^2

We can separate the f and g be rewriting as;

f'(g g' - g^2) = f (g')^2 \Rightarrow \frac{f'}{f} = \frac{(g')^2}{g g' - g^2} = \frac{g'}{g} + \frac{g'}{g' - g}

So try picking some simple function for g and seeing if you can solve for f.
 
If f(x) = e^{kx}, g(x) = e^{lx} then <br /> \left(\frac{f}{g}\right)&#039; = (k - l)e^{(k-l)x}, \\<br /> \frac{f&#039;}{g&#039;} = \frac kl e^{(k-l)x}. These can be made equal by suitable choice of k and l.
 
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stevendaryl said:
\frac{(g&#039;)^2}{g g&#039; - g^2} = \frac{g&#039;}{g} + \frac{g&#039;}{g&#039; - g}
That looks like a freshman's dream on its own but it is correct.
That approach leads to a nice solution for some simple polynomial g.
 

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