Feasibility of fission reactor at centre of Earth

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the feasibility of a fission reactor located at the center of the Earth, as proposed by J Marvin Herndon. Participants explore the implications of this idea for generating the geomagnetic field, considering various geological and physical factors.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference Herndon's proposal of a fission reactor at the Earth's center, suggesting it could generate the geomagnetic field.
  • Concerns are raised about gravitational forces being nearly zero at the Earth's center, which may prevent heavy chemicals from separating based on density as Herndon suggests.
  • It is noted that the inner core is solid due to extreme pressure, and that radioactive isotopes like 40K contribute to heat generation in the core, potentially being a primary source of heat after initial cooling.
  • Some participants mention that solid lumps of uranium can undergo fission, as evidenced by the natural fission reaction found in Oklo, Gabon, and discuss the need for moderators to slow down neutrons for fission to occur.
  • There is a suggestion that the core of the Earth does not have to be solid if the temperature is sufficiently high, which could affect the feasibility of fission reactions.
  • Discussion includes the behavior of seismic waves, noting that s-waves travel through the solid inner core while p-waves lose energy at the liquid/solid boundary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of a fission reactor at the Earth's center, with some supporting Herndon's ideas and others challenging them based on geological and physical principles. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to assumptions about the state of materials in the Earth's core, the role of temperature and pressure, and the nature of seismic wave propagation, which may affect the validity of claims made regarding fission reactions.

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There's a a paper by J Marvin Herndon about the feasibility of a fission reactor about 5 miles wide at the centre of the Earth,which could generate the geomagnetic field.Someone said in New Scientist magazine that because gravitational forces are nearly zero at the Earth's centre then the heavy chemicals mentioned by Hearndon wouldn't separate out on the basis of density as he suggests.

http://www.understandearth.com/Herndon%20JGG93.pdf
 
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Quite right indeed. Moreover the inner core is solid under the extreme pressure. However, all the unstable isotopes anywhere within the Earth, perhaps most abundantly 40K just continue their usual radioactivity and thus generate heat. Some think that this process is the main cause of the heat of the core after initial cooling.

Others have other ideas of course.

qhttp://nujournal.net/core.pdf[/URL]
Just showing it for educational purposes, how far one can go scaremongering in order to get into the limelight.
 
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Andre said:
"the inner core is solid under the extreme pressure. "

Solid lumps of uranium do naturally undergo fission such as those found in 1972 in a mine at Oklo, Gabon.But the neutrons need to be slowed down (at Oklo water was the moderating material).There are many elements that can act as moderators - carbon is one.Also the core of the Earth does not have to be solid if the core temperature is high enough.Some moderating materials have atoms displaced by neutrons and these atoms stay in the moderating material with high potential energy that can suddenly be released by a temperature rise(Wigner energy that caused the fire at Windscale).
 
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verdigris said:
Andre said:
Also the core of the Earth does not have to be solid if the core temperature is high enough.

The inner core is solid because s-waves travel through; the p-wave loses energy in the form of an s-wave at the liquid/solid, outer/inner core boundary. This happens because p and so-called sv- waves form a coupled system.
 

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