Fermi energy of multiple electrons, infinite potential well

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The problem involves determining the Fermi energy level of five free electrons in a three-dimensional infinite potential well, with each dimension measuring 12 angstroms. The context is rooted in quantum mechanics and the behavior of electrons in confined spaces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Fermi energy formula and the filling of quantum states. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of energy states, particularly the occupancy of the (221) state and how electrons fill the available states sequentially.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts to understand the filling of states and the discrepancies between their calculations and the solution manual. Some participants express confusion about the occupancy of certain states and the implications of degeneracy.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the need to account for electron spin and degeneracy in the filling of states. Participants are also grappling with the implications of having a small number of electrons (five) compared to larger numbers, which may affect the applicability of certain approximations.

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Homework Statement


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Five free electrons exist in a three-dimensional infinite potential well with all three widths equal to a 12 angstroms. Determine the Fermi energy level at T 0 K.

Homework Equations



E = [(h_bar*pi)2/(2*m*a2)]*(nx2 + ny2 + nz2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Tried using EF = (h_bar2/2*m)*(3*pi2*N/V)(2/3) but no luck; found the solution manual online, but the answer doesn't make sense:

"For a 3D infinite potential well,

E = [(h_bar*pi)2/(2*m*a2)]*(nx2 + ny2 + nz2) = E0*(nx2 + ny2 + nz2).

For 5 electrons, energy state corresponding to nx ny nz = 221 contains both an electron and an empty state, so

EF = E0*(22 + 22 + 12)..." (plug in values and solve from here on)

My question is, why does the 221 state "contain both an electron and an empty state"? It seems like the 5 electrons should fill up only the 111 and 211 levels since 111 has room for two states and 211 has room for six.
 
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Can you give the link to the solution you found?
 
Ah ok, sorry I was a bit confused because I forgot that ##n_i## starts from one instead of zero.
ricardillo said:
EF = (h_bar2/2*m)*(3*pi2*N/V)(2/3
This is an approximate formula when the number of electron is very large. For 5 electrons you have to count the possible states one after another starting from the lowest one, which is (111). Neglecting spin, if you have 5 electrons, which level you will end up to if you add the electrons one by one from (111) state?
 
If we include degeneracy, then there's one electron in (111), three in (112) and one in (122) with two states left over at that level. However, if I try the same method for thirteen electrons, as in part (b), I'd only get to level (123) rather than the (233) level given by the solution.
Is there something wrong with the way I'm filling up states?
 
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ricardillo said:
If we include degeneracy, then there's one electron in (111), three in (112) and one in (122) with two states left over at that level. However, if I try the same method for thirteen electrons, as in part (b), I'd only get to level (123) rather than the (233) level given by the solution.
Is there something wrong with the way I'm filling up states?
I am also facing the same problem.
 
Anik Paul said:
I am also facing the same problem.
I don't see how the manual arrived at its solution. The Fermi energy should be at (123).
 

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