Feynman field transformations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Feynman's explanation of electric and magnetic field transformations in different reference frames, specifically focusing on a scenario involving a condenser. Participants explore the implications of the transformation formulas for electric and magnetic fields as described in The Feynman Lectures on Physics.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding Feynman's statement that the electric field E is "reduced" in the moving frame S', while the transformation formula suggests that E' should increase.
  • Another participant suggests that the term "reduced" may be a typo or mis-transcription, arguing that E' must increase to maintain the invariant E^2 - B^2 across frames.
  • A later reply reinforces the idea that since B = 0 in frame S, the invariant condition requires E' to increase in frame S' where B' is nonzero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of Feynman's statement regarding the electric field. There is disagreement about whether the term "reduced" is accurate or a mistake, and the implications of the transformation formulas remain contested.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence on the definitions of electric and magnetic fields in different reference frames and the implications of invariants in relativistic physics. The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the original text and the need for careful interpretation of the transformation formulas.

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Readers interested in relativistic electromagnetism, the interpretation of field transformations, and the nuances of Feynman's lectures may find this discussion relevant.

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I'm trying to follow Feynman's explanation on page 26-10 of Volume 2 of The Feynman Lectures on Physics. He describes the electric and magnetic fields in a FoR S' moving between the plates of a condenser. Feynman writes that we see a reduced E and an added transverse B in S'. I've attached a copy of the figure in question.

The transformation formula provided in the text is E' = γE, because B = 0 in S. My thinking is that, according to the formula, E' increases. This effect is also consistent with the S length contraction in S'.

I am confused. Thank you.
 

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I have attached additional information in the hope that someone will kindly point out the error in my thinking.
 

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harpf said:
My thinking is that, according to the formula, E' increases.

You're right, it does. The "reduced" in the text is in error; possibly a typo or a mis-transcription (since the text was originally transcribed from Feynman's actual lectures).

Another way of seeing that E' has to increase is that E^2 - B^2 is an invariant; it's the same in all frames. In frame S, B = 0, so the invariant is just E^2, the square of the electric field. In frame S', moving relative to the plates, B' is nonzero, so E' must increase to keep the invariant the same.
 
I appreciate your response. Thank you.
 

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