Feynman propagator for a simple harmonic oscillator

In summary: Anyway, there is no problem in generalizing the calculation of the propagator ##\Delta(x,y)## in the book to the present case except that it's a bit more complicated. (You have to come up with a new contour, i.e., a new choice for the integration interval in the complex plane, and you have to apply the residue theorem to the poles of the new integrand.) It's best to avoid the exercises in this book. They are quite complicated and often not really instructive. It's better to do as many exercises in the course of reading as you can.In summary, the conversation discusses the derivation of the free Feynman propagator for a scalar field, as well as the calculation of
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Glenn Rowe
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I'm reading through Lancaster & Blundell's Quantum Field Theory for the Gifted Amateur and have got to Chapter 17 on calculating propagataors. In their equation 17.23 they derive the expression for the free Feynman propagator for a scalar field to be $$\Delta\left(x,y\right)=\int\frac{d^{4}p}{\left(2\pi\right)^{4}}e^{-ip\cdot\left(x-y\right)}\frac{i}{\left(p^{0}\right)^{2}-E_{\boldsymbol{p}}^{2}+i\epsilon}$$ where ##p^0=E## represents an energy that is not on the mass shell, so that in general ##p^{0}\ne\sqrt{E_{\boldsymbol{p}}^{2}+m^{2}}##. I'm able to follow their derivation (I think), but then in Exercise 17.4, they ask us to show that the Feynman propagator for the quantum simple harmonic oscillator with spring constant ##m\omega_{0}^{2}## is given by $$\tilde{G}\left(\omega\right)=\frac{i}{m\left(\omega^{2}-\omega_{0}^{2}+i\epsilon\right)}$$
It seems to me that the energy of the harmonic oscillator in its "one-particle" state is ##\omega_0##, and the general energy (off the mass shell) is given by ##\omega## so that the position-space propagator would be given by $$G\left(x,y\right)=\int\frac{d^{4}p}{\left(2\pi\right)^{4}}e^{-ip\cdot\left(x-y\right)}\frac{i}{\omega^{2}-\omega_{0}^{2}+i\epsilon}$$
From there, we can read off the momentum-space Fourier component as $$\tilde{G}\left(\omega\right)=\frac{i}{\left(\omega^{2}-\omega_{0}^{2}+i\epsilon\right)}$$
I can't figure out where the extra factor of ##m## in the denominator comes from. Introducing the extra ##m## seems to mess up the units as well, since their general expression for the momentum-space propagator is $$\tilde{\Delta}\left(p\right)=\frac{i}{\left(p^{0}\right)^{2}-E_{\boldsymbol{p}}^{2}+i\epsilon}$$. I'm guessing I'm missing something simple (since pretty well all the exercises in the book aren't too complex once you understand the principles), but I just can't see it.
 
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I've seen a derivation similar to that somewhere else (in English as well, I think) but I don't think that's what Lancaster & Blundell have in mind, since it doesn't give the answer they ask us to prove.

I have to admit I don't understand how you would introduce the harmonic oscillator into the methods they describe in their chapter 17, since their derivation is be done for free Klein-Gordon fields, which I don't think are the same as harmonic oscillators.

Maybe a better question is: is the expansion of the field $$\phi\left(x\right)=\frac{1}{\left(2\pi\right)^{3/2}}\int\frac{d^{3}p}{\left(2\omega\right)^{1/2}}\left(a_{\boldsymbol{p}}^{\dagger}e^{ip\cdot x}+a_{\boldsymbol{p}}e^{-ip\cdot x}\right)$$ valid for a harmonic oscillator, where ##a_{\boldsymbol{p}}^{\dagger}## and ##a_{\boldsymbol{p}}## are the creation and annihilation operators for the harmonic oscillator? If so, does ##a_{\boldsymbol{p}}^{\dagger}\left|0\right\rangle =\left|\boldsymbol{p}\right\rangle## where ##\left|\boldsymbol{p}\right\rangle## represents a single oscillator with momentum p?
If all that is true, then it would seem that the rest of their derivation would follow in the same way for a harmonic oscillator which would give the result $$\tilde{G}\left(\omega\right)=\frac{i}{\left(\omega^{2}-\omega_{0}^{2}+i\epsilon\right)}$$ that I got originally (without the extra ##m## in the denominator).

What makes me wonder if their answer is correct is that I've seen the derivation of the German result several times, but I've never seen anyone give Lancaster & Blundell's answer anywhere.
 
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Never mind - I figured it out and have posted my solution https://physicspages.com/pdf/Lancaster%20QFT/Lancaster%20Problems%2017.04.pdf. However, It requires using the technique developed in the previous exercise 17.3, although I have to say I'm not sure why that method works, but anyway.
 
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For the harmonic oscillator you can of course define creation and annihilation operators. These always refer to a basis. In this case it's the energy eigenbasis. For the 1D harmonic oscillator that's all you need to define a complete orthonormal basis. You can define the normal-ordered Hamiltonian setting the arbitrary value for the ground-state energy to 0. Then you have
$$\hat{H}=\omega \hat{a}^{\dagger} \hat{a}=\omega \hat{N}.$$
The eigenvalues of ##\hat{N}## are ##n \in \{0,1,2,\ldots \}##. The ground state is defined by
$$\hat{a} |\Omega \rangle=0,$$
and the eigenstates with eigenvalue ##n## are
$$|n \rangle=\frac{1}{\sqrt{n!}} (\hat{a}^{\dagger})^n |\Omega \rangle.$$
All this can be algebraically derived from the commutator
$$[\hat{a},\hat{a}^{\dagger}]=\hat{1} .$$
That given you can reconstruct the position and momentum operators as appropriate linear Hermitean linear combinations:
$$\hat{x}=A \hat{a} + A^* \hat{a}^{\dagger}, \quad \hat{p}=\mathrm{i} (B \hat{a}-B^* \hat{a}^{\dagger}).$$
To get the Heisenberg algebra you need
$$[\hat{x},\hat{p}]=\mathrm{i} \hat{1},$$
but now
$$[\hat{x},\hat{p}] = \mathrm{i} [A \hat{a} + A^* \hat{a}^{\dagger},B \hat{a}-B^* \hat{a}^{\dagger}] = \mathrm{i} (A B^* + A^* B) \hat{1}\; \Rightarrow \; A B^* + A^*B=2 \mathrm{Re}(A B^*) \stackrel{!}{=}1.$$
The usual choice is ##A,B \in \mathrm{R}##

$$\hat{x}=\sqrt{\frac{1}{2m\omega}}(\hat{a}+\hat{a}^{\dagger}), \quad \hat{p}=\mathrm{i} \sqrt{\frac{m \omega}{2}} (\hat{a}^{\dagger}-\hat{a}).$$
In analogy to the field-theory case you simply have in the Heisenberg picture (!)
$$\hat{x}_H(t)=\sqrt{\frac{1}{2 m \omega}} [\hat{a} \exp(-\mathrm{i} \omega t)+\hat{a}^{\dagger} \exp(\mathrm{i} \omega t)].$$
It's easy to check that ##\hat{p}_H(t)=m \dot{\hat{x}}##.

I have assumed that Heisenberg and Schrödinger picture coincide at time ##t=0##.

I can only guess what the exercise may be asking. It's perhaps to calculate the time-ordered vacuum time-ordered Green's function
$$G(t)=-\mathrm{i} \langle \Omega |\mathcal{T} \hat{x}_H(t) \hat{x}(0)|\Omega \rangle$$
or its Fouier transform [corrected in view of #6]
$$\tilde{G}(k_0)=\int_{\mathbb{R}} \mathrm{d} t \exp(\mathrm{i} k_0 t) G(t).$$
This is of course a propagator for the classical-mechanics equation of motion,
$$-m \ddot{G}(t)- m (\omega^2- \mathrm{i} 0^+) G(t) = \delta(t).$$
The Fourier transform thus obeys
$$m (k_0^2-\omega^2+\mathrm{i} 0^+) \tilde{G}(\omega)=1.$$
Obviously your book has a slightly different definition of the Green's function. Obviously
$$G_{\text{book}}=\mathrm{i} G.$$
 
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Thanks for the explanation. I'm assuming you left out a factor of ##G(t)## in the integrand of ##\tilde{G}(k_0)##?
 
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Argh. Of course, I'll edit it in the original posting.
 
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vanhees71 said:
G(t)=−i⟨Ω|T^xH(t)^x(0)|Ω⟩

Just curious, is this a useful quantity for anything?
 
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I'd rather say it's a nice mathematical exercise in introductory QFT boiling it down to the simple harmonic oscillators. In QFT the various "auto-correlation functions" are very important for calculations. They are called Green's functions.
 
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Glenn Rowe said:
Thanks for the explanation. I'm assuming you left out a factor of ##G(t)## in the integrand of ##\tilde{G}(k_0)##?
Can u reupload your solution or post it here pls?, I'm having the same issue
 

1. What is the Feynman propagator for a simple harmonic oscillator?

The Feynman propagator for a simple harmonic oscillator is a mathematical expression that describes the probability amplitude for a particle to travel from one position to another in a given amount of time. It takes into account the classical motion of the oscillator and the quantum mechanical effects of uncertainty.

2. How is the Feynman propagator derived for a simple harmonic oscillator?

The Feynman propagator is derived using the path integral formulation of quantum mechanics. It involves summing over all possible paths that a particle can take between two points in space and time, taking into account the amplitude of each path and the phase difference between them.

3. What is the significance of the Feynman propagator in quantum mechanics?

The Feynman propagator is a fundamental concept in quantum mechanics and is used to calculate transition amplitudes and probabilities for a particle to move from one state to another. It allows for the incorporation of quantum effects into classical systems and has many applications in various fields of physics.

4. How does the Feynman propagator change for different potentials?

The Feynman propagator is dependent on the potential energy function of the system. For a simple harmonic oscillator, the potential is quadratic and the propagator can be expressed in terms of the oscillator's frequency. For different potentials, the propagator will have a different form and may be more complex to calculate.

5. Can the Feynman propagator be extended to systems with multiple particles?

Yes, the Feynman propagator can be extended to systems with multiple particles by considering the paths of all particles simultaneously. This leads to a multi-dimensional integral that takes into account the interactions between particles and allows for the calculation of transition amplitudes and probabilities for the entire system.

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