Feynman rules (vertecies) for graviton

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the derivation of Feynman rules for gravitons, particularly in the context of graviton-scalar and graviton-graviton scattering. Participants explore the theoretical framework of quantum gravity and its implications for calculating graviton vertices.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that a generally accepted theory of quantum gravity does not currently exist, which complicates the derivation of Feynman rules for gravitons.
  • Others argue that the graviton is a well-defined concept within perturbative quantum general relativity, allowing for effective calculations at low to moderate energies despite the theory's non-renormalizability.
  • One participant suggests that insights from other approaches to quantum gravity, such as string theory, could be applied to calculate graviton scattering amplitudes.
  • References to classic papers are provided, including works by Weinberg and 't Hooft, which discuss gravitational interactions and the renormalizability of graviton interactions.
  • Another participant mentions the calculation of Feynman rules for KK gravitons in the context of large extra dimensions, suggesting a different approach for normal gravitons.
  • One participant proposes an exercise in quantizing the linearized Einstein field equations in the Lorentz Gauge as a means to gain insight into quantum gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and implications of a graviton, with some emphasizing the lack of a complete theory of quantum gravity while others focus on the effective theories that allow for calculations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to derive Feynman rules for gravitons.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the non-renormalizable nature of quantum gravity and the challenges in deriving Feynman rules from incomplete theories. The discussion also highlights the complexity of the mathematical techniques involved.

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Hi,

Could u advise me please some references where the Feynman rules for graviton are derived I mean graviton-scalar graviton-graviton scattering ... in general graviton vertecies ...

Thank you
 
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Such rules would come from a theory of quantum gravity, and we don't have such a (generally accepted) theory yet, as far as I know.
 
I formally agree with jtbell, in the following manner : we do not know whether there is a graviton out there, so we can not calculate its "true" Feynman rules. However, I think this is not a very helpful observation.

The graviton is a well defined concept in perturbative quantum general relativity, which although non renormalizable, offers perfectly good effective calculations at low to moderate energies. The results we obtain in the low energy effective theory will be the same as whatever correct UV complete theory would give, in the low energy of course. In this well defined theory, we can in principle calculate the Feynman rules as we please. In practice this is hard. However, we can use insights from even other approaches to quantum gravity, such a string theory, use their mathematical technics in a different physical context. This is done for instance in
Calculation of Graviton Scattering Amplitudes using String-Based Methods
MHV-Vertices for Gravity Amplitudes
Perturbative Gravity and Twistor Space

Note that, they is not easy reading. I would recommend to start with
Quantum Gravity in Everyday Life: General Relativity as an Effective Field Theory
Perturbative Quantum Gravity and its Relation to Gauge Theory
 
OK, I gladly stand corrected!
 
Thanks Gents ...
 
Some classic papers... might be helpful...

Weinberg's computation of `gravitational bremsstrahlung': should give you the lepton-graviton vertex. Excellently written, as ever...
Weinberg, S., Infrared Photons and Gravitons,
Phys. Rev., 1965, 140, B516

Graviton self-coupling, and graviton-scalar... including proofs that the former is renormalizable at one loop, the latter is not. This is why @humanino refers to treating gravity as an 'effective field theory'.
't Hooft, G., One-Loop Divergencies in the Theory of Gravitation,
Ann. Inst. Henri Poincare A, 1974, 20, 69-94

Graviton-lepton again, same conclusion...
Deser, S. & van Nieuwenhuizen, P., Nonrenormalizability of the quantized Dirac-Einstein system,
Phys. Rev. D, 1974, 10, 411-420


Cheers,

Dave
 
These were calculated for KK gravitons in large extra dimensions in arXiv:hep-ph/9811350 . For normal gravitons just use the zero mode solutions.
 
A frankly adorable exercise is to quantized the Linearized Einstein field equations in the Lorentz Gauge.

\mathbf{\Box} g_{\alpha\beta}=0

This actually provides some insight into quantum gravity, just as the low energy limit quantization does.
 

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