Field lines on parallel plates with same charge

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The discussion revolves around the electric field lines between two parallel plates with different electric potentials, specifically +3V and +1V. Participants are exploring the behavior of electric fields in this context and how they relate to the movement of positive charges within the field.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the differences in field line behavior between uniform fields and fields created by point charges. Questions are raised about the movement of a positive charge between the plates and the implications of the potential difference on its trajectory.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of electric fields and the behavior of charges. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Gauss' law and the concept of field lines, but no consensus has been reached on the specific dynamics of the charge between the plates.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of charge distribution and potential differences, as well as the microscopic interactions that may affect the behavior of charges near the plates. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a deeper understanding of electric fields and their representations.

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Homework Statement


Draw the field lines between two parallel plates with +3V on one plate and +1V on the ther

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The Attempt at a Solution



The answer is (D) for a uniform field between the plates, however when two positive charges are drawn the field lines diverge as in (B)
Why is this so, the two situation seem to be very different when all we have done is spread the charge along a line.
Thanks for any help
 
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Field lines can be a little confusing, so it's best to think about what they actually represent. The field lines are supposed to represent the electric field, which by F = qE, tells you how a positively charged particle will be accelerated. (so in A, the positively charged particle repells from the + and goes to the -. In B, it repels from both of them)

So what do you think a positively charged particle would do between the parallel plates?
 
Thanks you for the reply,
So in D a positive charge between two parallel plates both with +ve charge and a potential difference. It would try and move towards the lower positive potential bottom plate. What would keep it in a vertical line? If we say it is in the centre of the plates vertically, is it the field either side that keeps it in the vertical? Presumably a positive charge between the plates will further from the +3V plate but never touch the +1 plate?
 
Microscopically, you have the right idea. When the positive charge gets to the 1V plate, it will repel from the other positive charges on the plate. But it will still find somewhere on the plate it can fit. The other charges will just move around too. However, in order to take these points into account for your drawing, you would have to zoom in very far (to the atomic scale), so that you could draw the individual charged particles.

Have you learned gauss' law yet? You can calculate the electric field fairly easily (if you approx. the plate as infinitely large). If you do that, you'll see that the field lines are perfectly straight.
 

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