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The problem involves finding a basis for the subspace V of R3 defined by the equation 2x - 3y + 6z = 0. Participants are exploring the implications of this equation in terms of linear combinations and dimensionality of the subspace.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking apart the equation into linear combinations of vectors. There are different representations of the basis vectors being proposed, and some participants question the origins of parameters used in the representations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to express the basis for the subspace. Some participants confirm the dimensionality of the subspace and the validity of proposed basis vectors, while others suggest alternative approaches to derive the basis.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the subspace is two-dimensional, which aligns with the geometric interpretation of the equation representing a plane in R3. There is acknowledgment of the existence of multiple valid bases for the same subspace.

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Homework Statement


Let V be the subspace of R3 defined by V={(x,y,z)l2x-3y+6z=0}
Find a basis B for the subspace.

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First I broke apart the equation such that:

[[x,y,z]] = [[3/2s-3t, s, t]] = s [[3/2, 1 ,0]] +t[[-3, 0, 1]]



So, a basis for V =

[[3/2, 1, 0]
-3, 0, 1]]
Does this sound correct?
 
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mpittma1 said:

Homework Statement


Let V be the subspace of R3 defined by V={(x,y,z)l2x-3y+6z=0}
Find a basis B for the subspace.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



First I broke apart the equation such that:

[[x,y,z]] = [[3/2s-3t, s, t]] = s [[3/2, 1 ,0]] +t[[-3, 0, 1]]



So, a basis for V =

[[3/2, 1, 0]
-3, 0, 1]]
Does this sound correct?

Sounds correct.
 
so it would be acceptable to have a two dimensional basis for a subspace of R3?

Its because its a plane in R3?
 
mpittma1 said:
so it would be acceptable to have a two dimensional basis for a subspace of R3?

Its because its a plane in R3?

Exactly. It's a two dimensional subspace, so you should get two basis vectors.
 
Dick said:
Exactly. It's a two dimensional subspace, so you should get two basis vectors.

Awesome, thank you for the conformation.
 
mpittma1 said:

Homework Statement


Let V be the subspace of R3 defined by V={(x,y,z)l2x-3y+6z=0}
Find a basis B for the subspace.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



First I broke apart the equation such that:

[[x,y,z]] = [[3/2s-3t, s, t]] = s [[3/2, 1 ,0]] +t[[-3, 0, 1]]
But you don't say where these, and in particular, "s" and "t", came from.
I would have been inclined to say that 2x- 3y+ 6z= 0 is the same as x= (3/2)y- 3z so that
(x, y, z)= ((3/2)y- 3z, y, z)= ((3/2)y, y, 0)+ (-3z, 0, z)= y(3/2, 1, 0)+ z(-3, 1, 0)

Since every vector can be written as a linear combination of (3/2, 1, 0) and (-3, 1, 0), yes, they form a basis.


So, a basis for V =

[[3/2, 1, 0]
-3, 0, 1]]
Does this sound correct?
Personally, I would have solved 2x- 3y+ 6z= 0 for z giving z= (-1/3)x+ (1/2)y so that
(x, y, z)= (x, y,(-1/3)x+ (1/2)y)= x(1, 0, -1/3)+ y(0, 1, 1/2).

Of course, there are an infinite number of bases for this space.
 
HallsofIvy said:
But you don't say where these, and in particular, "s" and "t", came from.
I would have been inclined to say that 2x- 3y+ 6z= 0 is the same as x= (3/2)y- 3z so that
(x, y, z)= ((3/2)y- 3z, y, z)= ((3/2)y, y, 0)+ (-3z, 0, z)= y(3/2, 1, 0)+ z(-3, 1, 0)

Since every vector can be written as a linear combination of (3/2, 1, 0) and (-3, 1, 0), yes, they form a basis.



Personally, I would have solved 2x- 3y+ 6z= 0 for z giving z= (-1/3)x+ (1/2)y so that
(x, y, z)= (x, y,(-1/3)x+ (1/2)y)= x(1, 0, -1/3)+ y(0, 1, 1/2).

Of course, there are an infinite number of bases for this space.



I see what you are talking about.
 
mpittma1 said:
Awesome, thank you for the conformation.

Yeah, Dick is good at all the angles :smile:
 

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