Find ab given its relationship to the number 432

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The equation (a^(1/2) b^(1/3))^6 = 432 simplifies to a^3 b^2 = 432. By testing positive integer values for a, it is determined that a = 3 yields a valid solution, resulting in ab = 12. The discussion emphasizes the importance of the condition that a and b must be positive integers, as allowing negative values would introduce more solutions. Participants express curiosity about alternative methods for solving the problem, but ultimately confirm the straightforward approach leads to the correct answer. The conversation highlights the constraints of the problem and the implications of varying those constraints.
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If a,b are positive integers and (a1/2b1/3)6 = 432, then what is the value of ab?
 
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fk378 said:
If a,b are positive integers and (a1/2b1/3)6 = 432, then what is the value of ab?

Is this a problem from the SAT?

First bring the 6 inside the a and b term to get a^6/2 * b^6/3 = 432
 
jedishrfu said:
Is this a problem from the SAT?

First bring the 6 inside the a and b term to get a^6/2 * b^6/3 = 432

Yes, I did that. Don't know where to go from here. Seems like I just go in circles when I try to make two equations to solve for the two unknowns.
 
Is the only way to do this just to get a3b2=432, then find the factors of 432? I tried this and then got 16*27=432, so then a=3, b=2. But I feel like there must be a different way to do this problem...
 
Hmmmm... It would be good if there was another way. It seems a bit too easy.
 
fk378 said:
Is the only way to do this just to get a3b2=432, then find the factors of 432? I tried this and then got 16*27=432, so then a=3, b=2. But I feel like there must be a different way to do this problem...

You mean b=4 :smile:

I'm not aware of another way if there is one, and I'd imagine if there were, it'd be fairly more complicated.
 
fk378 said:
If a,b are positive integers and (a1/2b1/3)6 = 432, then what is the value of ab?

We are given
##(a^{1/2} b^{1/3})^6 = 432##
So
##a^3 b^2 = a(ab)^2 = 432##
##(ab)^2 = \frac{432}{a}##
LHS is a square, so test different a.
##a = 2 \implies \frac{432}{a} = 216## not a square
##a = 3 \implies \frac{432}{a} = 144##
144 is a square, so ab = 12.
 
pwsnafu said:
We are given
##(a^{1/2} b^{1/3})^6 = 432##
So
##a^3 b^2 = a(ab)^2 = 432##
##(ab)^2 = \frac{432}{a}##
LHS is a square, so test different a.
##a = 2 \implies \frac{432}{a} = 216## not a square
##a = 3 \implies \frac{432}{a} = 144##
144 is a square, so ab = 12.

Nice!
 
Notice that the condition "a,b are positive integers" is crucial here. If a and b were allowed to be negative, there would be more solutions. If a and b were allowed to be any real numbers there would be an infinite number of solutions.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Notice that the condition "a,b are positive integers" is crucial here. If a and b were allowed to be negative, there would be more solutions.

If a and b were allowed to be negative and we are allowed to use complex algebra, then yes.
Otherwise a1/2 is undefined.
 
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