Find all points on graph of f(x)=2sinx+sin^2x where slope = 0

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The discussion revolves around finding points on the graph of the function f(x)=2sinx+sin^2x where the tangent line has a slope of zero, indicating horizontal tangents. Participants are exploring the derivatives and conditions under which the slope is zero.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the derivative f'(x) and its implications for finding horizontal tangents. There are attempts to simplify the derivative and set it to zero, with some questioning the notation used. Others explore the conditions under which the product of factors equals zero.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into solving the derivative equation. Some have suggested using trigonometric identities to find solutions, while others express confusion about arriving at the specific values mentioned in a provided solution.

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There is mention of potential reliance on calculators and the need for clarity in notation. Participants are also addressing the assumptions behind the trigonometric functions involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find all points on the graph of the function

f(x)=2sinx+sin^2x

at which the tangent line is horizontal.


Homework Equations


- Power rule
- Chain rule
- Product rule?



The Attempt at a Solution


So I want all points at which the tangent line to this function has a slope of zero.

f(x)=2sinx+sin^2x

f'(x)=2cosx+(sinx)^2

f'(x)=2cosx+2sinx*\frac{d}{dx}sinx

f'(x)=2cosx+2sinx*cosx

f'(x)=cosx(2+2sinx)

...?

How do I go from here? I know to set that last equation equal to zero and find all the solutions, but just how do I find those solutions?

The solution from the book says:
(\frac{\pi}{2}+2n\pi,3),(\frac{3\pi}{2}+2n\pi,-1) where n an integer
 
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Slope=0 means f'(x)=0

then you use the general rule that if AB=0 then,A=0,B=0
 
rock.freak667 said:
Slope=0 means f'(x)=0

then you use the general rule that if AB=0 then,A=0,B=0
Right, I know.. but I don't see how to arrive at those values given in the solution. Is my calculator required here?
 
First, think back to algebra when you had those equations like (x-4)(x-2)=0, and you solved them by setting up two possibilities: either x-4=0, or x-2=0. You can use the same principle here.

If cosx=0, or if 2+2sinx=0, then f'(x)=0.

Now simply find all the points where this can happen. You don't need a calculator - simple trigonometry can help. Where is cosx=0? And where is sinx=-1?
 
illjazz said:
Find all points on the graph of the function

f(x)=2sinx+sin^2x

at which the tangent line is horizontal.

The solution from the book says:
(\frac{\pi}{2}+2n\pi,3),(\frac{3\pi}{2}+2n\pi,-1) where n an integer

illjazz said:
.. but I don't see how to arrive at those values given in the solution. Is my calculator required here?

Hi illjazz! :smile:

(have a pi: π and a squared: ² :smile:)

I think you're misunderstanding the notation in the solution.

sin(π/2 + 2nπ) = sin(π/2) = 1, and so f(π/2 + 2nπ) = 3.

sin(3π/2 + 2nπ) = sin(3π/2) = … ?, and so f(3π/2 + 2nπ) = … ?. :smile:
 
illjazz said:

Homework Statement


Find all points on the graph of the function

f(x)=2sinx+sin^2x

at which the tangent line is horizontal.


Homework Equations


- Power rule
- Chain rule
- Product rule?



The Attempt at a Solution


So I want all points at which the tangent line to this function has a slope of zero.

f(x)=2sinx+sin^2x

f'(x)=2cosx+(sinx)^2
No, it is not. I know what you mean but this is terrible notation. You mean
f'(x)= 2 cosx+ \frac{d}{dx} (sin x)^2


f'(x)=2cosx+2sinx*\frac{d}{dx}sinx

f'(x)=2cosx+2sinx*cosx
Okay, now that is correct.

f'(x)=cosx(2+2sinx)
But why did you do this? Just solve 2cos x+ 2 sin x cos x= 0. That is the same as
2 cos x (1+ 2 sin x)= 0 which means either cos x= 0 or 1+ 2 sin x= 0. That is easy to solve.

...?

How do I go from here? I know to set that last equation equal to zero and find all the solutions, but just how do I find those solutions?

The solution from the book says:
(\frac{\pi}{2}+2n\pi,3),(\frac{3\pi}{2}+2n\pi,-1) where n an integer
 

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