Find an expression for the electrostatic energy of this charge distribution.

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an expression for the electrostatic energy of a charge distribution involving charges of different magnitudes, specifically 'q' and 'q/2', and their respective distances in a geometric configuration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the distances used for calculating electrostatic energy, particularly questioning the diagonal length in a square configuration. There are attempts to substitute the charge values into the energy expression and simplify the resulting equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on simplifying the expression and checking the distances used. There is ongoing exploration of the correct substitutions and simplifications, with no explicit consensus reached on the final expression.

Contextual Notes

Participants are addressing potential misunderstandings regarding the values of the charges and the geometric relationships in the problem setup, particularly the diagonal length in relation to the side length 'a'.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


work = kqqq/(distance)


The Attempt at a Solution


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Check the distance you've used for the diagonals. Substitute 'q' and 'q/2' for the appropriate charges and simplify.
 
the distance I used for the diagonals is sqrt of a. I do not understand I do not have q/2.
 
warnexus said:
the distance I used for the diagonals is sqrt of a. I do not understand I do not have q/2.

Is the length of a diagonal of a square of side length a equal to √a ?

You have two sizes of charge: One is 'q', the other is 'q/2'. Make the appropriate symbolic substitutions.
 
gneill said:
Is the length of a diagonal of a square of side length a equal to √a ?

You have two sizes of charge: One is 'q', the other is 'q/2'. Make the appropriate symbolic substitutions.

oops the diagonal is suppose to be sqrt 2a^2.

heres the substitutions:

k(qq/a + qq/sqrt(2a^2) + qq/a -1/2qq/a -1/2qq/a -1/2qq/sqrt(2a^2))
 
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Okay, but you can simplify further. For example, you can pull out the q2 from each term.
 
gneill said:
Okay, but you can simplify further. For example, you can pull out the q2 from each term.

heres the simplification

kqq(1/a + 1/sqrt(2a^2) + 1/a - (1/a) - (1/2)/sqrt (2a^2)
 
You can collect the terms, putting them over a common denominator...
 

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