Find Area of Region w/ y=x, x+2y=0, 2x+y=3

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The problem involves finding the area of a region defined by the lines y = x, x + 2y = 0, and 2x + y = 3. The original poster attempts to integrate with respect to y, raising questions about the validity of this approach compared to integrating with respect to x.

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  • Participants discuss the intersections of the lines and the setup for integration. There is a focus on the limits of integration and the functions being used in the integrals. Some participants question the original poster's choice of integrating with respect to y and suggest alternative approaches.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on re-evaluating integration steps and limits. There is recognition of a mistake in the original calculations, and some participants are clarifying the correct intersections and integration setup.

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There are mentions of specific points of intersection and changes in the functions used for integration at certain values of y. The original poster's approach contrasts with a textbook method that integrates with respect to x.

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Find the area of the region

y = x
x + 2y = 0
2x + y = 3

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So, I decided to integrate with respect to y.

And got the integral from -1 to 0 of [(3-y)/2 - (-2y)]dy + the integral from 0 to 1 of [(3-y)/2 - y]dy.

Integrating that, I got

[3y/2 + 3y^2/4]0-1 + [3y/2 - 3y^2/4]10 = 0

However, the answer is 3/2.

The book integrated with respect to x, but I wanted to do it in terms of y.
Is it possible integrating it with respect to y?
 
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Okay, the lines x+ 2y= 0 and 2x+y= 3 intersect at (3, -3/2) (the lowest point on your graph) while 2x+y= 3 and y= x intersect at (1, 1). At y= 0, of course, the "left edge" changes formula. Integrate (3- y)/2 - (-2y) from -3/2 to 0 and then integrate y- (-2y) from 0 to 1.
 
"Okay, the lines x+ 2y= 0 and 2x+y= 3 intersect at (3, -3/2) (the lowest point on your graph) while 2x+y= 3 and y= x intersect at (1, 1). At y= 0, of course, the "left edge" changes formula."Integrate (3- y)/2 - (-2y) from -3/2 to 0 and then integrate y- (-2y) from 0 to 1."


Actually, they intersect at (2, -1).
That's why I was integrating [(3- y)/2 - (-2y)] from -1 to 0
(at x = 0, the upper function changes from y = x to 2x + y = 3.

"Integrate (3- y)/2 - (-2y) from -3/2 to 0 and then integrate y- (-2y) from 0 to 1."

Do you mean integrate [(3-y)/2 - y] from 0 to 1?
I don't understand where you're getting y - (- 2y) from.
 
Try redoing this step:
[3y/2 + 3y^2/4] + [3y/2 - 3y^2/4] (substitute the upper and lower limits of integration again).

You should be able to get the correct answer if you do it carefully.
 
Thanks, I see what I did wrong now.
 

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