Find Axial Force P: Stress Concentration Homework

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The discussion revolves around calculating the axial force P from a given stress distribution along a bar. The initial calculation yielded 18 kip using an average stress of 30 ksi, but this was deemed incorrect. A participant suggested that the average stress is actually closer to 28.7 ksi, leading to a revised force P of approximately 17.2 kip. There is also mention of using empirical equations to determine stress concentration factors, which may provide alternative insights. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately assessing average stress for correct force calculations.
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Homework Statement


The stress distribution along the section of a bar is shown below. From this distribution, find the approximate axial force P in kip.
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Homework Equations


δavg=P/A
A= (.6+.6)(.5)
δavg=30ksi[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


P=(30ksi)(.6in2)=18kip

It says this answer is wrong but i don't see where i am going wrong here? .8in is the diameter of the whole so it is not considered when finding the area.[/B]
 
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gv3 said:

Homework Statement


The stress distribution along the section of a bar is shown below. From this distribution, find the approximate axial force P in kip.
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Homework Equations


δavg=P/A
A= (.6+.6)(.5)
δavg=30ksi[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


P=(30ksi)(.6in2)=18kip

It says this answer is wrong but i don't see where i am going wrong here? .8in is the diameter of the whole so it is not considered when finding the area.[/B]
What answer is considered the correct answer?
 
Chestermiller said:
What answer is considered the correct answer?
Not sure. I've still been unable to get the answer. I don't see any other way to approach this. My professor approached it the same way when he did a similar problem.
 
This might be a silly . The average stress is actually a bit less than 30 ksi so your answer for force P is a little high . As near as can be judged from such a small diagram the average stress is actually about 28.7 ksi giving a value of force P of about 17.2 kip .

So maybe 17 kip is the 'correct' answer ?
 
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Nidum said:
This might be a silly . The average stress is actually a bit less than 30 ksi so your answer for force P is a little high . As near as can be judged from such a small diagram the average stress is actually about 28.7 ksi giving a value of force P of about 17.2 kip .

So maybe 17 kip is the 'correct' answer ?
The next question asked for the max stress/average stress and used 30ksi as he average stress which gave me the right answer. I am hesitant to try because i only have 2 attempts left.
 
Have you been given an empirical equation such as the one in Table 6-1-2 here? In this case, by plugging in the numbers, the stress concentration factor would be 2.23, and the nominal stress would therefore be 16.12. But this is just an empirical fit, of course.
 
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