Find charge density of simple electric field

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The discussion revolves around determining the charge density associated with a specified electric field, represented as E_x = ax, E_y = 0, E_z = 0, where 'a' is a constant. Participants explore how to relate the uniform charge density to the directional nature of the electric field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss's law and the implications of integrating over an infinite charged plate. There are questions about the necessity of integrating over the entire space versus using a cylindrical Gaussian surface. Some participants express uncertainty about how to interpret the charge density in relation to the electric field's direction.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the setup of the problem and questioning the assumptions made regarding the charge density and the electric field. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of a cylindrical Gaussian surface, but clarity on the overall interpretation of the problem remains to be fully established.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may be more complex than it initially appears, suggesting that careful consideration is required. There is also mention of the challenge in defining charge density in the context of an infinite plane.

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Homework Statement


Suppose an electric field E(x,y,z) has the form:

E_x = ax, E_y = 0, E_z = 0

where a is a constant. What is the charge density? How do you account for the fact that the field points in a particular direction, when the charge density is uniform?

Homework Equations


charge density = charge per unit volume

gauss's law says the volume integral of the electric field around some closed surface is negative the charge enclosed divided by the epsilon constant

The Attempt at a Solution


I picture this as an infinite charged plate going through x = 0 in the yz plane, which would have purely an electric field in the x-direction. So i think I am supposed to use gauss' law and integrate over all space? But i think that would get me some kind of infinite solution? Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Is this the complete statement of the problem? - word for word?
 
Yes. Except for a quick blurb in parenthesis saying: (This is a more subtle problem than it looks, and worthy of careful thought)
 
doodlepin said:

Homework Statement


Suppose an electric field E(x,y,z) has the form:

E_x = ax, E_y = 0, E_z = 0

where a is a constant. What is the charge density? How do you account for the fact that the field points in a particular direction, when the charge density is uniform?

Homework Equations


charge density = charge per unit volume

Gauss's law says the volume integral of the electric field around some closed surface is negative the charge enclosed divided by the epsilon constant

The Attempt at a Solution


I picture this as an infinite charged plate going through x = 0 in the yz plane, which would have purely an electric field in the x-direction. So i think I am supposed to use gauss' law and integrate over all space? But i think that would get me some kind of infinite solution? Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
(My Gauss's Law has no negative in it. Electric field originates on positive charge and terminates on negative.)

Assuming that you have "an infinite charged plate going through x = 0 in the yz plane", then you don't need to integrate over the whole plate. Integrate over a cylinder having flat faces parallel to the yz plane, on face with positive x-coordinate, the other with negative x-coordinate. Other sides should be parallel to the x-axis (perpendicular to the yz plane).

If the area of a flat face is A, how much flux passes through each surface of the cylinder?

How much charge is enclosed by the cylinder?

How much area of the plate is enclosed by the cylinder?
 
SammyS said:
(My Gauss's Law has no negative in it. Electric field originates on positive charge and terminates on negative.)

Assuming that you have "an infinite charged plate going through x = 0 in the yz plane", then you don't need to integrate over the whole plate. Integrate over a cylinder having flat faces parallel to the yz plane, on face with positive x-coordinate, the other with negative x-coordinate. Other sides should be parallel to the x-axis (perpendicular to the yz plane).

If the area of a flat face is A, how much flux passes through each surface of the cylinder?

How much charge is enclosed by the cylinder?

How much area of the plate is enclosed by the cylinder?

Flux that passes through each end of the cylinder:
E is independent of surface area at end of cylinder so flux is just E*A = ax*A
where A is the area of the end of the cylinder.

Charge enclose by the cylinder is charge density of infinite plane multiplied by A

Area of plate enclosed by the cylinder is A.

I don't have any further understanding of what the charge density of space is.
 
The charge density will be an area density, i.e. charge per unit area, σ.

So, the amount of charge on a surface of area A is Qin = σ·A .
 
Ok i understand that. Do you have any idea what they are asking for though? Because there is no area which would cover the entire yz plane. The gaussian cylinder thing makes since to me, i just don't know how it applies to finding the charge density of an infinite plane.
 

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